Permission 2 Speak Freely Podcast

Nostalgic Tunes, Home Adventures, and Engaging in Community Change

β€’ Thee Highest Chief Ali & Lay Loe Tha Mos β€’ Episode 36

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Ever found yourself caught in a whirlwind of Usher's "Confessions" album, reminiscing about the teenage years you swore you'd never forget? Join us as we stroll down memory lane, sharing the iconic tunes that became the soundtrack to our formative years. With a touch of humor, we compare our podcast crew's chemistry to legendary group dynamics, all while checking in on each other's well-being and positive vibes.

From the dance floor to DIY disasters, our adventures continue with tales of home improvement triumphs and tribulations. We recount our experiences of fixing up an investment property, tackling everything from chandelier installations to the unexpected quirkiness of local waste disposal regulations. We've learned that sometimes, owning a home means embracing the unexpected and finding joy in the chaos, especially when dealing with a luxury car's limitations while transporting new appliances.

Our discussion takes a deeper turn as we navigate the intricate world of political perspectives and community engagement. We reflect on the influential power of TV moms, the complexity of healthcare corruption, and the importance of local political involvement. By participating in local initiatives and understanding the impact of informed voting, we uncover the potential for meaningful change within our communities. So grab your headphones and tune in for a rollercoaster of nostalgia, humor, and thought-provoking insights that'll leave you pondering your own role in the world around you.

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Speaker 1:

It's a top Usher song, but you can't say, like confessions, you make me want to. No, no, I guess like the super popular shit. So we can top Usher song, that one that you like to go to when I'm trying to get some act right. Oh, usher song.

Speaker 2:

Usher song To get some act right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, first one that's coming to my mind.

Speaker 3:

Can you handle it? Hey, have your go there, baby with you. What you do, I ain't talking hey, yeah, that was shit.

Speaker 1:

Hey, that was a Non-skip album. Oh man, what that shit came out. It was in the A grade, we was all prime Losing virginities and shit it was. Hey, usher did that. The whole generation of virginity's lost, lost why your mama had work eighth, ninth, tenth grade. Nigga, if you was in there like yeah you, you lost your virginity to that confessions album. More than likely, more than likely, more than likely. Man, that was something going on that was hot on the internet. Yesterday Mika actually brought it to me like what's the top Usher song? But you can't say this. You can't say that, superstar, sometimes I gotta drive.

Speaker 2:

No, not that, that's a superstar. Yeah same album. Yeah same album.

Speaker 1:

Same album. This is why you said that's a no skip album, cause all the songs we just mentioned is on that same album, from Seduction to. Can you Handle it to Superstar to? Um, what's that?

Speaker 2:

I Can't Believe it ooh, I can't believe it. You came just in time, but I need it maybe come follow. It's called follow me, come follow me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, towards the end like 12.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was like the last that album, bruh confession no skip confession. No, skip that beautiful shit, man. Yo you back again, man. Permission to speak freely, we in here, yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, Once again the highest Chief, ali, and lay low the most Jesus' baby brother. So you anointed like a motherfucker man. Hey, man, don't mess with me. I'm going to call my brother. You anointed like a motherfucker. That's me. Don't mess with me. I'm going to call my brother. You anointed like a mother man. And apologies to those who listen, my guy cussed. He created all things. So you might hear me Chief of heathen. I'm heaven's heathen, heaven's heathen. You just got to accept it. Yeah, yeah, man, you want me on your team. Chief is like Kevin from Home Alone. He's always getting in trouble. You know what I'm saying? The whole family seem to have some type of gripe with him, but at the end of the day, you're a fucking hero.

Speaker 2:

I'm the glue that holds these motherfuckers together, you're a hero.

Speaker 1:

I am Michael Jackson and them, niggas, is the Jackson 5. All right, get in line, because your solo career might not be that motherfucking great. They can't hit that rope out like you can. You can sell 50 years off of me, nigga. You let me continue to be the star. You try to not play your role, nigga. Now you're going to be the temptation. Keep on truckin'. Right here, hey man. Everybody got to try to do their own thing. You were shy for a little bit, but it ain't nothing like the group. They keep on trucking with a good song. They really was All the less for sure, man, but we here, man. How the week been man, how you feeling? Hey man, my week has been good. Yeah, I'm sitting this week at a healthy 8.8, which is my natural. I feel like that's my neutral.

Speaker 3:

You're above your average.

Speaker 2:

I'm above the average.

Speaker 1:

I think last time I was listening man, you said you were at 8.3. Which episode? A couple episodes ago he was at 8.3. Because I think one of the other. I was coming up, 8.3 was probably but I know I was like a 6.5, 6.7, which is low for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it's like low for you because it's average. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

We like to be high. I got a natural high bro.

Speaker 2:

They call it ADHD.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, definitely I call it having a high engine. Yeah, we like to be up there for sure. But week has been very refreshing. Man, been getting back moving, getting like home chores done. Yeah, been dusting off my tool bag. Man, we got the investment property, so I've been over there doing those things.

Speaker 1:

Solid, solid man, I was doing some, I was doctoring up some stuff in the house. Man, I had to go ahead and drill a little hole into the ceiling so I can put the? Um, I forgot what it's called, but you could. Uh, yeah, I had to put the chandelier up, but I had to actually put a hole, because I had, like, just wires coming through. I had to put a pancake box. Yeah, then I had to put one of them joints up in there. I forgot what it's called, though, but I had to drill a little hole up in there.

Speaker 1:

A little metal plate, not the metal plate, it's the. I can't remember what it is, man, that's been a long time, but I know what I did. Uh, but I put the the. Uh, I forget what the c I can't remember the name is but I put the. I had to put the box up in there, screw the little things in for the drywall, so the hole, and I put the uh, some new light fixtures up. So that made me feel like, oh yeah, I got this shit. I've been doing it. But it started making me doctor up stuff for the house, started making me clean out stuff for the garage, and I'm a huge out with the old, in with the new. Yeah, my garage is a mess. Hey man, I'll come and help you bro, I got to get that together.

Speaker 1:

I'll come and help. But I'll tell you what my neighborhood though. They started doing a bulk day every week, not just once a month. All right, and butt is a butt. You can only put like four items out there at a time. It might be more than that, I think it's like six or seven, but you can't just put my whole garage out there in one day and everything ain't trash. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I say to Gates just put it all out there and let them choose. Y'all gotta take that shit back. They don't give me a ticket, they're gonna give me a ticket, like you. Gotta put this shit back. That happened to us. Man, pull it back when we first. I ain't bringing all that shit back, bro first. Okay, listen. So the bulk stuff. Let me tell you what happened to me when we first moved in. We threw out all of the appliances, okay. Now, what I didn't know is that when you put out a refrigerator to be taken away by the city, you got to snatch the doors off. I didn't know that. Okay, I'm new, you have to take the doors off. I don't know why. They scared the raccoon won't come out, you know. So I know why? Okay, I would love to know.

Speaker 1:

Refrigerators were only able to be open from the outside. When you would sit the refrigerator on the curb and kids would play, they'll go on the inside and get stuck and suffocate or die, couldn't, couldn't get out, with no way to push it, like you like now, as a kid who used to play in the refrigerator, like I was a strange child, sorry, uh, but we would do that, we would like we would. But that was one of the things, man and I actually saw it on tiktok. Just one of them like snapple facts. Did you know? Wow, I had no idea. Good to know, good to know.

Speaker 1:

And I was gonna ask the question why not take it? It might be a kid in there? Yeah, so, yeah. So I put the whole refrigerator out there. They didn't take it. Uh, I called and I oh, did you have the doors off? No, I'm novice like a mug to this. I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

You know the rules of throwing out, you know big shit. So the next week I got the doors off, I put it back on the lawn. They don't take it like yo, what is going on? I had so much I'm talking that we threw out a bunch of stuff from the house that came with the house refrigerator, the stove, the dishwasher, a door, interior door just throwing all of this stuff out and I'm having no idea why they're not taking my stuff. So what I did the next time is I put the stuff on the front tree lawn instead of the side, where I put just a regular trash. You do got the corner lot, big boss. Now imagine me taking a whole bunch of stuff you know my house, a whole bunch of stuff out of my garage, lugging it to the front of the house, yeah, and then having to take it back. I'm not taking that shit back.

Speaker 2:

They got to dolly all that shit. Yeah, that's what I did with the last refrigerator.

Speaker 1:

I dollied it, put it in the street cause the street's moving in the sidewalk dollied it on to the front, made sure the doors was off. You know cause? Now I knew the rules. I had experience with throwing out a refrigerator. Yeah well, they pick up like sto, like stoves or dishwashers couches.

Speaker 1:

And then on the flip side, you thought stuff like that scrappers be coming through. They know every city's trash day and the scrapper. They come through, they pick up trucks and I put that refrigerator out there about 4 pm. By the time my wife got home like 6, the refrigerator was gone.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, it wasn't going to make it.

Speaker 1:

Because this was an LG refrigerator, stainless steel joint. You know what I'm saying, but it was old. When we first got the house, we needed a refrigerator and, granted, we threw out the one that came with the house because it was an older, you know, regular little apartment refrigerator. We wanted something a little more, so we bought it. My wife found it on Marketplace $400. Went on and grabbed that joint and we had it for four years. So it served this purpose. That refrigerator served this purpose, man, but it started going out. The door wouldn't like seal. You would go to get some milk out of the refrigerator in the morning. There would be a bunch of condensations. What's this shit closed? Yeah, you like gotta push it to make it close. If you a parent with kids, well, that's the only way you become a parent. That's a fact. You can marry into some kids, you know. But if you have children, man, you done probably woke up with one in that refrigerator and that beer hot and you're in that condensation.

Speaker 2:

Gotta throw that milk out.

Speaker 1:

They ain't close it, man, so it's you. They ain't close it, man, so it's you. Need that seal, bro. You need that good seal on that dough. Need that for sure, For sure, man. But that's my story with the refrigerator. So garage gonna get cleaned out. That's the point of this whole thing the garage gonna get cleaned out.

Speaker 1:

Amen, matter of fact, I'm gonna start next week, man, I'm gonna take a couple things up there to get tossed out. That'll be your in addition to your, your man cave. Yeah, because I told you, man, I'm, you know, possibly maybe I may move out to the garage. If I can get it right. I gotta insulate the garage. It's not insulated at all, be cold and shit in there. Um, I gotta get some drywall up there. Insulate the inside, throw the drywall up there. Insulate the inside. Throw the drywall up there. It's only two exterior walls Well, three, if you count the doors. But the doors themselves are insulated, but they only keep out so much air. Yeah yeah draft.

Speaker 1:

You know, because the garage is connected to the house, so just that back wall and then that side, if I can insulate those and get some drywall up there, get it cleaned up, maybe get somebody to come through, do some epoxy on the floor, throw beads and shit out Now speaking of that man, first off, I think that would be fly shit.

Speaker 1:

But the project that, when it comes to the garage floors, I was thinking of the same thing as you, Like mine, pitted my garage floor. Pitted on that, you Getting like mine, pitted my garage floor pitted on that side.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mine too, man.

Speaker 1:

So I was thinking either call the people out that come in like even it out they just pour like the little self-leveler in there or I was looking on Amazon like finding the garage floor squares and putting them in there. Garage floor squares they got some like garage floor squares that you in there. Garage floor squares. They got some like garage floor squares that you like, they like. You know how you got the gym floors. Yeah, they got it, they like that tough Kind of puzzle them together.

Speaker 1:

That type of material you can get the color, you can get your emblem in there, you can get it to say stuff. So I was looking like, hey, this might be the way to go, instead of saying it might be cheaper compared to going to go pay maybe two grand for them to come and do the you know concrete, put the freckles in there and shit. When you can just get some flooring that got the freckles on it, you might pay like $7, $8 for the square footage or whatever I'm going to have to look into that too.

Speaker 2:

I was seeing you some stuff, man.

Speaker 1:

I was trying to cut costs, man, I was trying to. So home improvement stuff has been one of them things that we always discuss, man. That's 1%, 5% and 10% problems. Okay, owning things come with owning things, man. Right, right, all right, owning things come with owning things, man, alright, but I love doing housework on the crib man. That shit is therapeutic to me and it's like an art of my skill at a home. Man made me go back and feel like Tim the Two man Taylor on some home.

Speaker 3:

TV type stuff, man who had a very supportive wife.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure, she was very supportive wife.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure she was very supportive.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she was. She be throwing shade though.

Speaker 3:

What wife don't?

Speaker 1:

Have you watched Home Improvement lately? Is that the last five years? Nah, nah, do so, it's going to be even more hilarious to you. It was funny when we was kids. That was my big brother's favorite show, kid, that was my big brother favorite show. We all had like our favorite one. His was like home improvement and cops. My sister's was fresh prince, mine was family matter, but, but, um, but I forgot. I forgot what I was saying, bro. But oh yeah, home improvement, when you watch it as an adult, especially when you own property and shit it would he'll be doing shit in the house.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I think, episode one, season one, episode one the dishwasher wasn't working, right, man. So, man, this nigga tim hooked up like some goddamn nitro tanks to the dishwasher. He's like oh honey, yeah, it's gonna clean it like crazy. A bunch of torques on the water. You'll never wash a dish again in your life. Got this shit hooked up under the sink, all kind of tanks and pressurizers and fucking meters and shit. It's like nigga, it's a dishwasher man. He gonna turn that shit on.

Speaker 2:

That shit he's like yeah, man, that man, he gonna turn that shit. On that shit he like yeah.

Speaker 1:

Man, that shit missile blow out the back Of the cabinet. I die laughing, man, cause that trial and error be part of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, man, and the.

Speaker 1:

Tim the Tool man. Tyler can mess up, damn it. I can mess up too. Yeah, if you ain't never Installed a Dishwasher, knock out the drain plug, damn it. I can mess up too. Yeah, if you ain't never installed a dishwasher, knock out the drain plug to the garbage disposal if it ain't already out before you do it, because I learned the hard way, man.

Speaker 1:

So Freedom Speakers, thank you all for tuning in to this episode of Permission to Speak Freely Podcast. I am your host, the highest chief, ali, and I'm here with my bro host the most Laylo, the most so on one of my home improvement ventures, I wanted to update some things in our home, one being the dishwasher and one being the garbage disposal. So went to local Home Depot and that's my preferred's, my preferred store. Shout out to home depot, uh, I worked at home depot. And low. Shout out to those. Uh, both of them establishments. But that being said, when I upgraded and updated the garbage disposal and dishwasher at my home at the same time, I'm pretty crafty and pretty diy kind of guy you know.

Speaker 1:

So I got everything hooked all the way up and I'm looking for leaks and I'm looking for this and I done. Put my little putty around the. I put a new drain in there, put a little seal in there, little plumber's putty, and I'm proud of myself. I got the, I got the big dog, uh, the Moen. I got it was 198,.

Speaker 3:

Well, five, six horsepower, I got the big dog.

Speaker 1:

Migo's mad at me because I like to do shit right, man, but go ahead. So I didn't do shit right, not fully Okay. So I had everything hooked up, but one of the things that I did not do was knock out the drain plug for the garbage disposal that allows the back pressure, the back flow and all that to go, or to drain out. Yeah, for it to go into your disposal. Yeah, man, I'm washing the load in a dishwasher like uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's on. Yep, look at that, you see. Look, you see how smooth that shit is.

Speaker 1:

The other one was antique. You know what I'm saying. It still worked, but it was antique, had a funny smell when you opened it. That being said, when the water started hitting the flow because it had to go somewhere, water got to go somewhere. And this is when you start reading instructions, your manual, all kind of shit. So four gallons per wash is what's used in your dishwasher. In average dishwashers that's just four gallons of water swishing around. So people be like oh, I'm reading. Them kids will run that motherfucking bathroom. Right, yeah for sure, balance out what you want. But the water had to go somewhere. That shit started spilling all on the floor. I'm trying to dry it up with all the towels. Now we arguing about where the fucking towels at, why we ain't got no to order some towels. You ordering everything else but towels, order towels. A mop head ain't going to get this. He's trying to deflect. Trying to deflect man, but it was it. Take me back to even before we go.

Speaker 3:

Don't use the white tire.

Speaker 1:

Take me back. Before we even get to the water on the floor, we had to go get a dishwasher from Home Depot and I'm driving an Audi A6. Oh man, and that's a guy that Audi Q3. If you don't know those cars, you can't put no goddamn appliance in there with two kids. So, bro, that was one of the gripes with having one of those luxury cars of like I'm a craftsman DIY type of guy. Nick, I can't put no more kitchen cabinets.

Speaker 2:

in this bitch, I need AWD.

Speaker 1:

So, that being said, man, water spillingilling everywhere. We trying to clean up all the water. I'm reading the manual. What's going on? Like man. What the fuck is something? Is it leaking? Is like I'm put. I even got it set out on the floor in the middle of the kitchen letting it run. I'm like man, it's probably leaking in the back. Nah, then knock the motherfucking drain out and the back flow all through that bitch. Yeah, warped up our kitchen floor, mad as fuck about it. The water had to go somewhere and I did it like three times until I read in that manual before you get started, don't forget to knock out this drain plug if you're using, if you're connected to a dishwasher, if you're connected to this. Yeah, if you're not connected to a dishwasher, do not knock out the drain plug. That's why it's there. And you gotta hit that bitch hard. Yeah, you take a screwdriver with a hammer. Yep, pop that chips with that bitch man you could either.

Speaker 1:

They say like you can grind it up if you want to, or stick a hand there and pull it out. I'm like I'm pulling'm pulling this shit out. Hey, man, I watch too many horror movies as a kid where there's just electronics malfunction. Too much home improvement. Yeah, yeah, man, check out Home Improvement. Man, please, as an adult, do yourself a favor, man. This week. Five episodes, I will. That's two and a half hours, 22 minutes per episode.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cause it's.

Speaker 1:

TV For sure, for sure, yeah. So Just do that man. You gonna be like Yo this shit. You gonna understand the dad more now. We used to watch this shit as a kid. You know what I mean. So you used to be Little Timmy, you looking at it. From Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right, yeah, them niggas Now you. You, tim, the two man, taylor now. So you, tim. The Tool man, tyler now. So should be different. Man, you got to go back. You remember when you used to be Chris? You're Julius now. Yeah, that's you, you, julius. Now, man, I get the big piece of chicken, little ass, chicken wing. Yeah, man, you got to do that, you got to do that, yeah. So I'm going to check that out, man. So I will say this, when this past weekend, like I said this week, knocked out some house things, but I actually got a chance to sit down for a second and just reflect. So, as I'm reflecting and I'm chilling, man, I'm sipping me a little bit of something, man, I'm puffing me a little bit of something, I'm just, you know, relaxing, taking the load off. I'm watching, I'm binge watching TV shows, and that's not a usual thing To me to do, but I be. I sometimes feel like It'd be a waste of time, cause I'm one of them Active people that be doing stuff With my hands all the time.

Speaker 1:

But In this moment, nigga, I need my body To sit your bitch ass down, bruh and catch up on your shows. Catch up on your shows. So I start hitting on Um Some TV shows and then the provocativeness if that's a word in me, took over of Aztec, as you said, as a grown-up. Now I'm in the grown-up role but I'm looking like hey, hey man. Some of the shows I was watching I'm like hey man. Peggy Bundy really wanted to fuck Al a lot as a husband. Now, what's wrong with Al?

Speaker 2:

I'm Al I'm.

Speaker 1:

Al, I'm Al Bundy. Okay, because if you tempt a two-man tailor, I'm Al Bundy, I go to work, I'll cuss people out. Everything I say is wrong. I got smart-ass mouth Me and my neighbors be getting into it. Yeah. But I was just watching some of the TV women on the shows of like hey man, how they treat they husbands or how they deal with the husbands, from some of the comical sitcoms to some of the ones that were actually more serious man. So I was looking like hey man, peggy Bundy one was bad, she didn't work.

Speaker 3:

Peggy Bundy was bad Peggy Bundy one was bad.

Speaker 1:

She didn't work. Let me look her up. Peggy Bundy was bad First. Peggy Bundy was bad Big redhead, leggings, titties and she stayed at home. She had no job and Al worked at the shoe store. Al worked at the shoe store and she wanted to fuck Al all the time.

Speaker 3:

Oh, al, and he he like god damn it, peg he.

Speaker 1:

He was so irritated by his wife but it's like hey, man yo some niggas would wish to be in your shoes, bro.

Speaker 2:

I see what you mean, bro, yeah man peggy.

Speaker 1:

Peggy bundy was, it was what was one of them. So I'm watching now as the husband like al. What the fuck is you tripping for, bro? You come to bed, peggy, where the fuck? And you just irritated man beautiful is that her? That's her you might notice her too for another generation of people who may be listening to the show. She was one of the main characters on Sons of Anarchy. You have your hip. The sons of Anarchy.

Speaker 2:

I'm hip to Sons of Anarchy. Yeah, so she was on there as well. I never watched it, though.

Speaker 1:

She was on there as well, and she voiced one of the characters, the lady with the purple hair, and went out on Futurama.

Speaker 2:

That's thank you.

Speaker 3:

So you're a fan, I'm a fan, I'm a fan, I'm a fan. You're a fan of this woman. I know all that.

Speaker 1:

First off hey man, I love women and but I love like, if it's white women, I like the redheads, brunettes. You know that when I look at my porn search for like white, I look at like red heads. So you need specific with a. I specifically like white girls with red hair, white kind of Like gingers.

Speaker 1:

Butts. I like those. Yep, I look those up. But Peggy Bundy, I was like Peggy was bad, always wanted to fuck. Al Seemed like she'd irritate that nigga, get on his nerves, but it was like, hey, she was all for her, nigga. Though.

Speaker 2:

I liked that. I liked that.

Speaker 1:

So one I couldn't get with, though I was watching the bitch, watching everybody hate Chris. And I love Tashina Arnold, but I cannot. I don't find her attractive as Rochelle. As Rochelle.

Speaker 2:

I don't find her attractive Because.

Speaker 1:

Pam was fine, pam was finer than Gina. Yeah, like for real, if I was an adult they was pushing Gina. You know what I'm saying. She's the love interest, she likes him. Yeah, but Pam though, pam though, and you know, because Martin was always roasting her and shit. You know what I'm saying. Funny that they have more of a connection, even on the show, than Gina and Pam. Yeah, for sure. But I didn't find Rochelle attractive because she's like mom, mom, mom. Okay, she's mom mom. But I did find Elyse Neal attractive from the Hughley's DL Hughley wife on there.

Speaker 3:

I found she you be hitting me with real names, bro. Yeah, I'm a fan, bro, I'm a fan.

Speaker 1:

What's her name? Elyse Neal, oh, elyse, yeah, ely Elise Neal. She was the mother on the DL Hughley show and I'm trying to think of anyone else? Yes, she was the wife on Hustlin' Flo. What's the name of the wife on Hustlin' Flo? Anthony Anderson's wife.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, yep. But another one. I was looking at her like hey, just a Woo, you just hey, you got me one you might be fixing to say it go ahead. I don't wanna that's that, them, my only two, that I got. So far man I only had two and I got three.

Speaker 1:

Now, I had one in mine, but it, like you said, man, now these my TV crushes, they're wives, but they're. But I'm looking at it from the husband perspective. I don't want to be rude. I'm fantasizing about fucking somebody else's wife. You know what I'm saying. It's like I'm attracted to the character, the fan. You know I'm a fan. But I was looking at them, just looking at the husband perspective, like hey man, she really, she down, she down.

Speaker 3:

So I got my two.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to back out for a second.

Speaker 1:

I think I got my three now, you mentioning her, Elyse Neal you said Elyse. Neal you mentioning her reminded me, and I'm going to go ahead and give you this third one first. Okay, Bet, bet, bet. Now I don't use real names, bro. Honestly.

Speaker 3:

I.

Speaker 1:

But she was on the Jamie Foxx show as well and we got to talk about him a little later on, wanda. Mack On the Bernie Mack show. Oh hey, hey, yeah, yeah, hey, yeah, hey. Man, that's an honorable mention.

Speaker 2:

Is that a TV, mom?

Speaker 1:

I mean technically she didn't have children.

Speaker 2:

She's auntie, she's Aunt Wanda.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, uncle Bernie. Uncle Bernie, she's Aunt Wanda. But, man, I had to clarify the rules with you. On the TV, mom, yeah, man, well, you know, I went mom, milf type husband, but it's TV crushes. Don't forget about Aunt Wanda. Tv crushes, bro. And she was a chocolate delight. Yeah, chocolate delight. She got some really nice eyes, nice eyes, nice lips, just a beautiful face. You know what I'm saying. She was also, I think, for me, because it's more than just the aesthetics of the woman. Another thing that you liked about Peggy was not just the way she looked, but just her character you know man she was always trying to look out for her husband, even though this nigga be he used

Speaker 2:

to play football.

Speaker 1:

Nigga, fuck this woman, yeah he's still living in his high school glory days and she rock with him. But uh, but unwanda's character, I mean, hey, unwanda, she always kind of came through for them kids, when uncle bernie was, you know what I'm saying, the voice of reason. And she was able to calm the Mac man down a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Jordan, you know what I'm saying Bernie, come here, wanda, I'm talking you right, honey?

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. She was able to do that, so shouts out to Wanda Mac man what's her real name, please, I would like to shout her out.

Speaker 3:

Oh shit.

Speaker 2:

Shouts out to you, Wanda Mack.

Speaker 1:

I'm so sorry, but she's a beautiful actress. Yeah, beautiful man. I got Alright, so we talked about this a little bit before the show. Her last name wouldn't be Winslow, would it? But Rachel, aunt Rachel from Family Matters, richie Mama, richie Mama. They were my stepson when I was growing up. They were my stepson, but I had a crush on Rachel, always had a crush on Rachel. Man, I'm talking as a kid, bro. When I was a kid, yeah, I watched cartoons, but Family Matters was like my show and it wasn't because of Rachel. I like Aunt Rachel more than Laura't because of rachel like I'm not like rachel more than laura.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

But like man, she's so pretty, you know what I'm saying. And she was, she was the sister, because, you know, because harriet was the, the mom is mom. You know what I'm saying, what? She got Three kids. One of them disappears, so she got two.

Speaker 3:

Remember the baby sister yeah.

Speaker 1:

Harriet couldn't seem like. See, harriet was Carl's wife. Yeah, and then Rachel was Harriet's sister. Who could never get Her shit together.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and so she was there.

Speaker 1:

She was staying with them. We don't know where Richie daddy was. That's why I come in. You know what I'm saying. I, we don't know where richie daddy was. That's why I come in, you know I look out for him.

Speaker 2:

You know saying they loved you for that.

Speaker 1:

Give him a little bite for christmas, you know. So I look out, I do what I got. Y'all just type shit I be doing right, but uh, but no, rachel was always very attractive to me, pretty smile. You know what I mean, and she, and I mean this respectfully, I mean this respectfully. The same way they would use Myra for, like, the sexual innuendo for the show. You know they wouldn't use Laura for that, you know they would use Myra and Myra, you know. Rest in peace to her, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I forgot what her actual name is was.

Speaker 1:

I'm not good at that, but she was very beautiful and you know she wanted Steve, you know, but they would also use Rachel. When the adult Characters were in the room. I remember she had a saxophone. She ended up finding her saxophone, or something like that, and Apparently she really couldn't play, had a saxophone. Uh, she ended up finding her saxophone or something like that and, um, apparently she really couldn't play the sax for shit, but she liked, she liked to play it. So she found her saxophone in the attic or whatever. And then she come out there like oh, I found my saxophone, so then she go.

Speaker 2:

They used to call me hot lips. And then Harriet go. That before you got the saxophone, Rachel.

Speaker 3:

Shit like that it's like what Adult jokes, Rachel?

Speaker 2:

what you doing?

Speaker 1:

You started blow skiing and shit what you doing. But yeah, I'm Rachel man, shout out to her I got to get real names, man, I want to get them their flowers. One more, I'm Rachel man, shout out to her I gotta get real names, man, I wanna get them their flowers. One more, bro, one more. Okay, bet, bet, bet, this one gone, trudy Proud Thick Trudy, yeah, her, I forgot she was also on Hustlin' Flow Her. I forgot what. I forgot who's voice she was also on Hustlin' Flow.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh, yeah Her name.

Speaker 1:

I apologize, Let me get her real name real quick. I forgot what her name is, but I like her as well One, and this might sound sexist, but I like her as an actress from the movie Sprung. She was in the movie Sprung with Tashina, I mean with Pam, we don't know my character names, but she was in the movie with Sprung and as a kid I used to just like her mouth. I liked her lips, yeah, her teeth.

Speaker 2:

Big mouth ass.

Speaker 1:

Paula J Parker. Yeah, paula Jai, middle name Jai or J Parker. Yeah, paula Jai, middle name Jai or J, shouts out to you. She did the voice for Trudy Proud, but Trudy, trudy, trudy, yeah, man, I know we getting into the animation world, forgive me, you know what I'm saying. But Trudy Proud, man, because she also had that character too, where she was very, because you ain't never heard trudy get out of pocket. You know I'm saying oscar will be. You know I'm saying mama. You know I'm saying but when trudy.

Speaker 1:

Come to oscar, you know. Come sugar mama, you know, she was just so comical. So it's more than just the aesthetic of the woman, for sure it's the character.

Speaker 1:

I want y'all to understand this freedom speakers. I ain't a complete freak, you're just not a complete freak, just a little bit. But you know it's her voice, her tone, just the way she was as a mom, as a wife, and she was a professional woman as well, I believe. But Trudy Proud, man, another one of them, tv moms, yes, yeah, shout out to Trudy Proud, shout out to Paula J Parker for the show man. So to finish this off, pause. Oh, you got your third. I got my third. Talk to me, man alright, talk to me.

Speaker 1:

Felicia Rashad as the mother. Oh man, on the Cosby Show. You know what One? We can't do this, okay one. You see how my voice changed Like I'm talking to her. She's very sensual as a woman. She gives me very Women of her era like her. Stephanie Mills yeah, stephanie, like was it Ivana Zanvat? What's her name?

Speaker 2:

Ayala Van Zant. I want to make sure I say it she fine for real. She fine for real.

Speaker 3:

Ayala, like whoa Miss Van Zant.

Speaker 1:

Remember, these aren't. I think with these women we're not only just talking about how beautiful they are exterior, we're talking about the aesthetic of a soul, y'all man. Okay, stephanie mills, soul as a woman is so sensual and soft and it's like why are you hypnotizing me? Don't be eye candy with felicia rashad. Just the way that she looks so subtle, she don't gotta be that eric that. Um, lisa bonet, like you could tell she got that same from her of like no, be a, you ain't got a herb baby, you can be still.

Speaker 1:

It's power, yeah, it's power in that man, so we're in being still. I see, I see that man. So they uh, what was it, claire? Claire, huxtable, what?

Speaker 3:

was her name.

Speaker 1:

Claire Huxtable. Claire Huxtable was letting, if you watch some of the episodes, like they wouldn't be sexual but they would be intimate, yeah, you would see them laying in the bed together fully clothed, but he'll roll over, cliff will roll over and kiss her gently, just touching on her. Boop, bop, bam. You know whatever they doing, but it's. It's like hey, they got eight, nine kids in this, but you don't think. You don't think that happens, man. I was watching the episode of the cosby show and we're gonna get back to felicia rashad. We're not just gonna roll over, but I shout out felicia I gotta mention this, man.

Speaker 1:

It was this episode where, uh, it was the end of the episode. Man, I swear this wasn't scripted. Man, um, mrs huxtable was, she had some lotion and she was rubbing clips, maybe back or shoulder, arm or something like that. You know what I mean and as a wife, you know she kind of got done with that section. It's very inappropriate for tv. Man, with your children, you just don't get it. But, uh, she goes, um, I'm gonna have to pull it up. Man, I don't want to misquote, but she said, uh, would you, would you like anything else before I go to bed? And she kind of, you know, using the rest to rub into her hands. So then, cliff Bill Goes, why don't you reload Over there? You know? So she gets some more, she gets. This is on TV.

Speaker 1:

She gets some more. This nigga Bill Go to Slosh Down, he doing this shit, he doing that shit and then she take the lotion and she like Put it on the nigga face and the audience go crazy laughing and shit and that was the end of the episode. That shit was hilarious man hey bro, the way this he teased your ass.

Speaker 1:

He going along with it, man. Shout out to man, that shit was fucking bad. The Cosby Show? Shout out to Felicia Rashad, such a beautiful woman, and so Grace Adonis Creed, mama. She played there too, For sure. Shout out, man. Hey, felicia Rashad, man, she's still very much a fine woman. I remember when Drake wanted her. I watched her Breakfast Club interview, and Drake wanted her, for was it the?

Speaker 2:

Keisha Do you Love Me? Video Keisha, do you love me?

Speaker 1:

He wanted Felicia Rashad in the video to be like his love interest mom and she went on and did it. But Felicia Rashad's daughter, I believe, is her manager video to be like his love interest mom, you know, and she went on and did it. But you know um, felicia rashad's daughter, I believe, is her manager, and so felicia's uh daughter was like oh well, mama, you gotta do it.

Speaker 2:

And she's like I know, I know, but I'm gonna make him wait, make him sweat a little bit so she know what she be doing, she know, know what she be doing she make Drake wait.

Speaker 1:

I'll email back in a couple days. Nigga, I'm Mr Rashad. Nigga, others still take plans. You can wait for me. But yeah, man, shout out to Felicia Rashad. It's the only real name we knew around. I knew her, I knew that, I knew that. Now Got it over her for sure. Man, that's wild man. So honorable mention would be. I know we did three, but an honorable mention would be. And she's not a TV wife or whatever. But when I said Stephanie Mills, just the essence, that's very comparable to Felicia Rashad, did you see when she pulled up on Dion Cole?

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah, bruh, that that freedom speakers. If you have not seen that Breakfast Club interview with Deion Cole and then Stephanie Mills pulls up on him, and if you don't know who Stephanie Mills is, she used to date Michael Jackson back in the day. She was Michael Jackson's girlfriend and she would tell you and she had hit songs. I don't know who they are right now, but she's a beautiful woman and I like her music and I like just how her aesthetic as a woman I've been seeing her, like you say, on there and how she speaks as a woman and speaks of women empowerment and how she talks to men. Yeah, how she talks to men. I think that shows a certain character of her mannerism, how, how she was raised, what she didn't exercise and seen work for her. You know what I'm saying In an industry dominated by men, which is, you know, entertainment.

Speaker 1:

It was definitely when she was doing it. But when I seen her in that interview talk to him and go so subtle to him, just grab his hand and rubbed on his face, I think, and he just pulled she was with mike when he was still black yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1:

We had mike with the big fro. Mike was like 20 so, but when I seen her talk to deon cole and, uh, pull up on him and address him, real subtle as a woman and real, you know know, flirty and sensual, she had a whip. Yeah, at least in my mind she had one. She had like a leather jacket. She kissed my man on the lips and he just, oh yeah, but you see how he was like, oh yeah, he like them. He's like did you see her?

Speaker 3:

though, yeah.

Speaker 1:

He's like them vintage women. Yeah, like them vintage Vintage women. And again, no disrespect With the word. When you think of vintage, you think of you know.

Speaker 2:

Old furniture.

Speaker 1:

Still got value, but old Like nah, vintage in a Very lovely way and preserved Exactly. You got better with time. You skill your classic moves is shitting on all this artificial that's out, oh man. So shout out to those who do the minimum and get the most. Shout out to those beautiful women who have found beauty within themselves. And sometimes, you know, it can be difficult. You never know what a person thinks about themselves For sure, that's true. So, freedom speakers, continue to love on yourself, continue to find love within yourself and find people who love on you for who you are. At the same time, don't be no, just bullshit-ass, sly motherfucker. Step your shit up. That's the show, man. Put some pep in your step and find another gear. All right, mother fucker ain't going to just accept. So I'll say this, man, I was watching 600 Pound Life with Ness and I like watching that show and I watch it on some fat nigga shit, like I always eat when I watch it, because then I don't feel bad, that's for sure.

Speaker 1:

I try to watch it because you go watch it and I like doctor. Now all right, I was gonna be doctor now for uh, that's a good one man, I was gonna be doctor now for halloween, some hair on my was gonna give me a gold stethoscope and a trench coat I mean a lab coat and walk in there like hey, aren't you hey.

Speaker 2:

So what's the problem? I sent you, uh, four months ago. I gave you a goal to see if you can lose 20 pounds. Not only have you not lost 20 pounds, you gained another 8 pounds. So I'm not going to do this shit with you.

Speaker 1:

If you're not going to, then at the end we're going to do the little one-on-one for the video. That's my favorite part, because he be brutally honest, honest as fuck.

Speaker 3:

The individual do not do what they were supposed to do and I do not feel safe to proceed with the operation. If they continue to grow and eat as they're eating, at the astronomical rate, they will not be alive long enough to even see the procedure come full circle.

Speaker 2:

I would be surprised if she made it even to your next appointment.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you saw the motherfucker that got on the scale, and this is a scale that they use to weigh beans and shit Like this is real.

Speaker 1:

They can't bring no regular motherfucking Walmart scale in there. Hell no, nigga, they need the shit they use to weigh rice. They got a freight fucking they weighing sacks of potatoes on this motherfucking old trucks man. So uh, it might have been a woman, but anyway, man, she got on the scale. Nigga, that bitch said couldn't even. And then I believe I might be getting episode men, but I believe her brother. He was big too, but he would way less than her.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I seen that my nigga was like damn.

Speaker 1:

Man, I seen that episode. A whole family, it's like the whole family fat as fuck, man. No disrespect to people sensitive. We love the people around here, man, but at the end of the day don't care. You said yeah, man. So all of them. They be killing me on the people back on their backstory.

Speaker 3:

I've been practicing on my diet and Dr Now told me I've been managing my weight. I don't think I gained that much. Hopefully he gives it to me, but we'll see.

Speaker 1:

And then they walk in and get weighed and be up on weight.

Speaker 2:

Post to lose 30 and gain 45.

Speaker 1:

Man, God fuck Shit. Yeah, man, Then we be up on weight Post the lose 30 and gain 45.

Speaker 2:

Shit.

Speaker 3:

I thought you were supposed to Stick to the diet. What's going?

Speaker 2:

on, I have been sticking to the diet, but no, you haven't.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it sucks. I remember he got on them one time. The lady was like I can't survive off of this diet.

Speaker 3:

I need to eat. He was like you've eaten four months worth of food already. You are not going to starve.

Speaker 1:

He got right on her case like, hey man, quit fucking playing with me, man, don't play with me man. But I like watching Dr Now, man, dr Now you a hero man For sure. So if you go back, because I was watching them from the beginning At first, dr Now was just okay. In surgeries the niggas was coming back, you know, getting fucked up. Yeah, now they had them. You kept watching it. These people had to make goals and weights, man, they had to go talk to like a psychiatrist. That's a big step. Like a psychiatrist, that's a big step. They had to go, you know, lose weight. I mean, you got to lose this amount of weight just because, man, you giving somebody 700 pound gastro surgery but they ain't going on the anesthesia and shit.

Speaker 1:

You don't know what to do. Yeah, yeah, so they start changing. I'm like, oh so, shout out to Dr Now. Man, freedom Speakers, I'm going to be Dr Now next season for Halloween. I'm practicing my voice. I fuck with Dr Now. If you notice sometime, man, he don't blink when I watch him. I'm like, man, he ain't blink. Or his eyes be so low he look like he blink. Hey, you watch, or that's a watch? That's a watch. What's a thousand pound sisters?

Speaker 3:

My bill to pay.

Speaker 1:

I ain't no, baby yeah.

Speaker 3:

You don't know what it's like To be this big Tammy, you don't no.

Speaker 1:

You don't, hey, listen, so check it out. So Tammy ended up, you know, losing weight. I think she ended up like Getting a surgery, not sure. Another fat-ass family. I mean I like that Because both of the sisters and the brother we getting canceled this week.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

But the brother big, you got the I believe she's the older sister. And then you got the two younger sisters who are like the main characters, you know. So the older sister, you know she's still like, you know, pretty in the face, you know what I mean. So Tammy and the older sister like arguing. So Tammy, do like her green screen backdrop, you know. And she's lost his weight, but she got like a lot of like excess skin and shit like that.

Speaker 2:

So she do her green skin. She's like what's wrong man, cause you not the pretty one, no more. I'm like oh cut.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, that y'all the pocket. I respect your confidence. Tlc wrong for that. I respect your confidence.

Speaker 2:

Whatever did editing and did y'all, it was just oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

Edit this out if you got to, man, I don't wanna.

Speaker 2:

I like doing the show we'll see but listen.

Speaker 1:

It was an episode, man, where the middle sister is pushing Tammy in the wheelchair and they have to cross a brick road.

Speaker 2:

Debbie got so fucking mad because she didn't stay on the sidewalk.

Speaker 1:

You know, trying to cross a brick road in a wheelchair with a six seven hundred pound person.

Speaker 2:

That wheel, get between them bricks.

Speaker 1:

She was so fucking mad man. People looking at shit oh man, I don't like when they be doing shit like that and then the other person be like be pretending to be helpless, they act like come on, tammy, move, I can't keep moving your big ass, all like that. That's the brother. I saw you and her eat a lasagna the size of this pan.

Speaker 2:

I don't mean I ate it all in one day.

Speaker 1:

Tammy, don't you goddamn do that shit to me, don't you goddamn lie. You can pull that bullshit over their ass, that's it. Yeah, but they got a Kentucky accent.

Speaker 2:

They from Kentucky. Yeah, they from Kentucky.

Speaker 1:

They from Kentucky, yeah, they sound like Kentucky man, but I watch that show and eat and don't feel too bad. I'm like I ain't, but none of them single, yeah, man. So I remember Tammy had oh fuck, I wish one of the sisters don't give me the quote but one of them had a black guy and he was like a true. He was a true, true BBW lover, true.

Speaker 2:

He was real skinny, wasn't?

Speaker 1:

he, he was, yeah, he was real skinny, so she was. Which one of them at this time had all that fat In they forehead?

Speaker 2:

I forget Not the one with the eyes. It was the one.

Speaker 1:

With the fat in the forehead, the one that got the children, not her, okay. I know what you're talking about and not the older sister who is yeah, she look decent, she pretty. Yeah. Yeah, tammy is the one who was struggling With the weight loss. The younger one who went into rehab yeah, okay.

Speaker 3:

And that's.

Speaker 1:

Tammy, she was the one that was like an extreme, extreme case, and the other sister was like my bills are paid. Yeah, I pay my bills bitch, my bills are paid.

Speaker 2:

She was like you're the one acting like a baby about it. Well, who's calling you a baby? I ain't no baby. My bitch might be a spank.

Speaker 1:

So I watched that on there with Nessa.

Speaker 2:

You, the damn baby.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to think what else on TLC I'll be watching with her. Bravo really been her network lately.

Speaker 3:

Bravo, been the one.

Speaker 1:

Catching back up on them Housewives shows. Tlc, rome man Exposing this family the way they are for capital.

Speaker 3:

It ain't right.

Speaker 1:

Hey, man, speaking of capital man, this shit about to get dark. Okay, what's up? You heard about the healthcare exec got knocked over. Yeah, shit real. They trying to say it was a young dude, I think he was like 26. Something like that. They caught him. They caught him like two days ago and, to be honest with you, bro, I think he wanted to get caught. Apparently, this nigga still had the gun in which I heard I don't want to put no false, I'm not reporting, I'm just saying what I heard it was a 3D printed gun. Oh yeah, that's serious, 3d printed, no serial number. That's serious, 3d printing, no serial number. No, nothing. But he still had the gun and the manifestos, I believe from the plane and shit. I don't fucking know, you know, but this guy's apparently very intelligent, had like a 130 IQ, some shit like that. So pretty much premeditated. He wasn't no fool, definitely premed. This wasn't no, just random Bruh, like, first of all, man, it's just sad man. Definitely our condolences to the family, but it's man.

Speaker 1:

My wife jameika made a good point last night, man. She was like people are upset, you know, I'm saying, be it health care and even auto insurance, like you know, people go. It's fucking scam. You know I'm the big weed is getting rich and we down here getting fucked. You know what I mean, because I'm paying into this, you know, and then when I actually need to use my insurance, I get denied. You know, like people are angry. So those people out there man kind of reminds me of the Joker movie, mm-hmm. You know, when he killed those three Wall Street, you know, guys, when they were they were bullying him in this case, you know, but people kind of got behind that like yeah, fuck, fuck them.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

It's us, the little guys yeah, it's people out there who are kind of like putting on the clown mask, like, yeah, fuck, give us free healthcare. You know what I'm saying, really, yeah. Yeah, it's people out there who you know and like and I can understand, but at the same time it's like, oh man, the man got killed for this shit. The point that Jameika made was man. You never know. He might have been one of the guys trying to make some shit happen on the. You know behind the scenes, for the people he could have been one of the people who voted for it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the deciding factor of it. Yeah, it got took out. Yeah, now they lost the majority vote.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Right, because you mad. That happens though. Yeah, because you mad man, the shit wild man. As an employer man, I believe that in health insurance, not only just like the employer being able to be in a good place to offer it, but I do feel like the country, with all of the things that it has, it can really be a really good managed thing. Yeah for sure, but it's the same, it's like okay. So even when you think back, like John Q, you know what I'm saying. Ain't John q a true story?

Speaker 1:

oh, I don't know I want to say yeah, I want to say that shit really happened, man, but when it come down to it, it's like an important thing. That john said was like hey, sick, help. We hear the commercials and people talking about how expensive insulin is and shit like that. You know what I mean. It's like if I don't get this shit, I'm going to die. I'm burning a hole in my pocket having to pay. You know what I'm saying. Why are these rates so high? Yeah, why does this thing that people need to stay alive cost so much? Like it's that expensive. It shouldn't be that expensive. It shouldn't be that expensive. So the argument that is People getting rich off this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the argument that normally comes into play with that is most insurance is still filtered through government regulations, through stuff like that. So when you have corrupt people in there, or corrupt politicians, excuse me, who sit on ballots or committees to be able to vote for different things, vote for rates to be increased, vote for you know the levies of what. You know what you can and can't do, yeah, yeah, y'all are making record, breakingbreaking profits. Man, you can't trim insulin. You can't trim. It's like insulin shouldn't cost more than Viagra. Okay, insulin shouldn't cost more than Bluetooth. All right, it shouldn't Shout out to Bluetooth. We get a sponsorship for the show or something. Shout out to Bluetooth, we use that.

Speaker 1:

But I believe in that. And, like I said, on the employment side, if you are running a business that can be profitable, you hope to be profitable. There's negotiations you can make for health insurance, but I do believe bigger than the employer going to go still do the legwork. I believe it's a society the country can truthfully help benefit Um Health insurance. But I'll say this, and this will probably take a turn for it why would they Help? Preserve us or people Like us when they were trying to Like, kill us or mass Keep us in mass extinction yeah, that's fucked up too yeah, so giving me health insurance or life insurance, I'm pretty sure they stopped killing people if everybody went got like life insurance yeah, and

Speaker 1:

that's yeah, and that's where it go to, because it's like you already know. Let's just say you have majorities and minority, you know. So we, as black people, we're a minority, you know. We cover about 13% of this country. Um, you know, you got for what they call. You know Hispanics, latin Americans, you know are another, I don't know 10%. So when you add up the minorities in this country, we're actually a majority. The minorities, when you combine them all, outnumber the majority white people.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying so it's basically colors and whites. Yeah, colors and whites. So it gets to a point to where you know they they 53%. Now they take our country. That's why they say shit like ah, we got our country back. The fuck are you talking? We're trying to take this motherfucker and we stopped them from reproducing man. So I'll say this, even with the abortion thing that comes into play with that we talked about that a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1:

I'm with the abortion thing that comes into play with that. We'll talk about that a couple of weeks. You know I'm for, I'm for choice, for you to have your own choice on it. But I do understand, like the abortion clinic is another way of population control. The way that you look at it, if she's not ready, she ain't ready. But to have a, to have a strong workforce, the way I'm looking at it, I want you to remember the country is a business.

Speaker 1:

If you keep getting rid of their workforce, it's going to be an issue. They're going to have to go to automation. They're going to have to go to AI. People don't want to work, no more. We still got to produce. Results are mandatory. We control how you reproduce. We make you have to stick with it. Hey, man, if that child ended up for uh in in the jail, we got profit for profit prisons. And that child end up somewhere working somewhere, we got another. You know person punching, punching the clock nine to five. It's like we ain't gonna let you get rid of our potential uh workforce. So that's just big corporate greed, america. Like it's still a numbers game. Still a numbers game, man.

Speaker 1:

Uh, as a man, that's why, when I sit in the place I sit. I try to understand that and look at it, try to be a really good employer, offer the different things. Man, I know, and I know that's normally the first place they tell you to go get stuff from us, from your job. Yeah, you want more money, go to your job. You want to raise, go to your job, need insurance, go to your job. So I'll get that.

Speaker 1:

I get that. I get that. But when I do see other, like say, other establishments that could offer just a tad bit more, and maybe not just on the hourly thing, like per hour, but more health benefits, more this, more that, or pay a more percentage into it, man, it is they got it and not just say they got it, they supposed to give. But that's a way that I look at it, as that's the way the business comes to the people, because the business is the, is the is the bridge between the government and the people. Yeah, you know, the employer is the bridge between them. So, right, man, it's wild times.

Speaker 1:

Man, yeah, man, it's difficult wild times, for sure, 1000%, but definitely, you know, shout out to the family, man, our condolences from permission to speak freely. That shit is that shit, wild man. Yeah, that shit. No, life shouldn't be taken, man. Nah, not at all, not at all. That just lets you know, man, the power of a conversation, that shit. As we talk, man, and we have our conversations, man, we label them conversations of faith, man, we, we label them conversations of faith. We have a conversations about things we need to organize and do about people's lives and positions that they may not even fully be aware of, but they trust our navigation of being a part of the team, of where we're going. You know, I'm saying so, introducing new, taking away some. Oh, yeah, they, they, they they're blindly building their life off of us. If us sitting somewhere and we not on top of our, our shit, and we gotta show up one day like, hey, yeah, today, the last day, yeah, I ain't do my job.

Speaker 1:

Can't be that day, man, so so shifting it a little bit, man, how you feel about uh uh, uncle trump in office?

Speaker 1:

not uncle trump man I feel about uncle trump. You know what man I want to uh I'm glad you asked me that, bro I want to uh, if I can, uh recant statement I made in our uh, our post-election episode a few weeks ago. You know, um, I was a little I guess just naturally flustered man. You know, we recorded that shit like two days after the election man, so I was still a little raw. You know what I mean. So I will say this, though, and this is something that I stand on I do not believe that Donald Trump is racist. Allow me to explain for sure. Believe that Donald Trump is racist? Allow me to explain For sure. I don't believe that he is racist. However, I do believe that he is okay with benefiting and using racist people to get what he want. I couldn't agree more. I believe he's okay with that.

Speaker 2:

Alright. Well, they gonna vote for me. Alright, I'm gonna fuck with them.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, but like would Donald Trump go up there and maybe he would now, being that this will be his last term? Hey, we got four years of at least Donald Trump. One of them other, you know Trump niggas might pull up next.

Speaker 2:

We'll see if the Republican Party want to do that, she may. Even I wouldn't be another.

Speaker 1:

He may even try to run as an independent. Now, you know, independents don't win, they don't win. But you know him and that family got enough of a following where they may be able to run as an independent. If the republican party does not want a representative from the trump family, um, to be their candidate in uh 2028, but um, but that's what I believe, man, he's okay with rick donald. Trump is not racist. However, his following absolutely fucking is you know what I'm saying? The folks right here on the corner, right here a few weeks ago selling the shirts and got the trucks out and the flags and shit. Y'all fucking racist. So let me ask you this Ain't nobody going that fucking you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

Hold on, wait. Alright, go ahead. I know where you're going with it.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you this Did you, your mama, have an?

Speaker 2:

Obama shirt. Damn, fuck yeah. Did you have an Obama shirt?

Speaker 1:

You had an Obama phone.

Speaker 2:

No, I ain't. Did somebody have an Obama phone?

Speaker 1:

I knew some niggas had some phones, you know what.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying, all right, man.

Speaker 1:

Niggas had Obama flags T-shirts playing to the difference. Man and I. You know, I would love to have a, a trump supporter in here, one of them heavy motherfuckers. You know I'm saying I wear my obama shirt to represent to solely represent my candidate. A lot of these people. I want to say all y'all, not all of you, and if you exempt, feel free to go ahead, exempt yourself and move on. They wear and represent to offend. You know I'm saying that's the interesting way I'm wearing this shit to offend you.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm saying trump bitch whoa you know that man said come help a nigga get elected, Change you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. But, like I don't know and it may be me, I may be nuts you know what I'm saying. But, white man, were you offended by my Obama t-shirt? Because that wasn't his purpose? You know? And if you can sit here and tell me that, you, you know, you wave that flag and you, it's just, it's just so egregious. You know I'm saying, and it's so nigga. Trump flag, the america flag, the confederate flag, all mean the same fucking thing to me right now. And then they sometimes they throw in a prisoner of war flag, yeah, the POW, yeah, all that shit. It's kind of like yo y'all being offensive. And I will never forget, man, I mentioned it, you know, that day when I mentioned just seeing the image of his supporters pushing that black woman around at that Trump rally. You know what I'm saying, mm-hmm. And him standing up at that podium pumping his fist, standing up at that podium pumping his fist, chanting oh, if this was 50 years ago, it would not be good for her.

Speaker 1:

I tell you what it's like. Who the fuck you running for president? Nigga, you need to take control and be like hey, hey, hey, cut that shit. You know what I'm saying, but you just going, and that's my issue. That's my issue. He couldn't go against in that scenario. He couldn't go against the people who put him there, yeah. And if they're like hey, we don't care if you're supporting or not, you, clinton Biggs, beating me bitch, you a nigger lover who? You a white cracker lover who was a nigger.

Speaker 3:

Don't do it.

Speaker 1:

Let me put it like this my 12-year-old son Cracker lover, who was a nigga. Don't do it. Let me put it like this my 12-year-old son, the day the Wednesday after election night, I asked him, matter of fact. I told him that morning hey, it's looking like Donald Trump is going to be the next president. I don't want you getting involved in any political talk today. Okay, that's what I told him. Be the next president, I don't want you getting involved in any political talk today. Okay, that's what I told him.

Speaker 1:

After school he tells me he's walking down the hallway into his class and just because he's black, this kid, who ain't even old enough to fucking vote, okay, come running, skipping down the hallway and goes ha Trump won. What makes you think I'm not a Trump supporter just because I'm black? What makes you think my dad you know what I'm saying didn't vote for Trump? So just because I'm black, you don't even know me. You don't even know my name. And I'm speaking from Lowe's perspective. I don't even know my name. I'm speaking from lowe's perspective. You don't even know you, but you feel you know. Ha trump, just because I'm a black person walking down this hallway, you felt the need to throw that in my face. And where did that attitude come from their parents came?

Speaker 2:

from their parents.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying and that's the issue. You know what I mean. You know how much like, how bullying took a huge incline under the Trump administration, his last term. You know what I'm saying, because his attitude validates the bullshit the bullshit Like it's okay. You know what I'm saying, with no consequences. Yeah, and that's not something that I want my children under. You know what I mean, like you know. So, yeah, that's my thoughts, man, that's my thoughts. I'm with it. Does he have some good policies? Yes, do trump supporters not? Do they not know what the fuck they'd be talking about? Also, yes, jimmy kimmel did a uh, a whole thing where he would ask them hey, so tell us about uh, the americare, and they'd be like oh yeah, I think it's great.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm sorry, that was obamacare we were talking about. Oh well, that sucks. No, you just said you just complimented it. Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that Getting you know getting there. I am not a political person. God in charge. Okay, me neither, at least I'm not, but I do partake in it because, like I'm not a political person, I'm like I identify with a party or whatnot, you know, or one of them. You're a capitalist, or you're this or you're that. I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

We're all political, whether you want to be or not Whether you want to be or not, so at least understanding where your benefit lies. Yeah, kind of. You know what I'm saying. So I'm supposed to be Republican because you know where I sit. However, I as a politician I don't get involved too heavily in the personal character of themselves, because I understand all.

Speaker 1:

I live long enough to see a lot of the presidential things and it's like a cut and paste. All the everybody go around, they need to get all the black. It's like a cut. It's a cut and paste. Yeah, all the everybody go around and get, they need to get all the black vote, the white vote. It is the that, that that, and nobody unanimously wins. No matter who gets in office, somebody's upset. Yeah, so this is why it's like, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1:

But I understand on policies and rules that are written for businesses, because the us is set up really on businesses the supreme court, judges and apollo, the all of the people who sit up on there, the house, who pass these laws and levies and bills and all of this stuff. They sit in there and have these conversations and I get shit moving and push through. So, for example, for, as a small business owner, if you are looking to offer your employees, uh, health insurance maybe be prior to covid you had to have enough people on your payroll to even be able to communicate with um and this is even, I think, before healthcare market, healthcaregov that you can go and look on like policies legitimate policies, because you can get scammed and be paying insurance and it'll be some off-rate ass Taiwan insurance or some shit. You know what I'm saying. But it ain't accepted or recognized a certain mean amount of people to be able to qualify for a single plan or family plan, and one side would get dicked because, hey, man, you got more single people or more family people and that's kind of where they lean to for rates now after covid and they got a chance to see, like, how many businesses there are. And keep in mind, during covid they had a lot of ppp, faking people, fake businesses. So for all business owners, man, don't forget to register your BOI. Well, they're going to shut your shit down. Ten thousand dollar, fine, but that's a way to help minimize register your way. Yeah, that helps minimize all of the fake industries and big industries, fake businesses that were started to get PPP laws, at least in my theory.

Speaker 1:

In my theory, uh, but knowing how, uh, congress had changed things before health insurance that allow business owners to be able to individualize plan like reimburse finance for you to be able to have, uh, health insurance and you just not going without because the hospitals and shit, you get hurt, you get shot. Then go to the hospital. Somebody still is stuck with that building. Normally is the hospital. Especially if the is stuck with that building, normally it is the hospital, especially if the family don't got no insurance or now they cooking plates for your gun Fund me.

Speaker 1:

It's like nah, you can eat health insurance and supplemental insurance and stuff like that. It's more affordable than what you think. If you drink down, julio Russ Posado, what you drink, what you think if you drink down who yo russ passato. You can afford life insurance out your own pocket. 53 a month. If that brother, if you got an employer, they might be paying 80, 20, 60, 40, 50. We pay 50, 50. I need you healthy hoe on all accounts, man. But it's stuff like that that I learned, I had to learn because that weighs in politics with health, or hey, they regulated the health insurance, so you all would. It can be beneficial more to the country. You know I'm saying so, yeah, but I'm not a political person, but I I know enough to know like I don't want to be fucked up, so I I ain't vote for trump, but I would have voted. I ain't vote this time. I ain't vote, which is voting not voting, not voting.

Speaker 3:

You're still voting, yeah, so and I respect your opinion.

Speaker 1:

I so I, I I like trump on the policies of business, of, as we keep saying, man. It's the mantra for 2025. Results are mandatory. I feel like he's going to get in office, as he do, as all the presidents do, and say they cleaning up the last person's and that yeah, and that's how it goes that's the same play, or or in trump's case, benefiting trump's first term, benefiting from eight years of Obama's administration.

Speaker 1:

So when it comes to his reelection, he is getting credit for his. You know what I'm saying. Like when a football team hire a new coach, shit don't just change that day, my snaps ain't working. But shit don't just change like that. They're like ah, new coach, it takes time for shit to okay, we're not doing that, no more, we're doing this. We get some of my recruits in here. If you're talking college football like this, the last coach, the niggas he liked, yeah, they running different plays, formations.

Speaker 2:

They got different essence.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you right, it takes time.

Speaker 1:

It takes time, but let me get my recruits in here, not to mention the fucking Senate, the House, the fucking judges and shit in the Supreme Court. It takes time for that shit to go and like the real power, like I'm going to say this man, this is for fuck the presidential election, it's really about this local shit. Get down to your local levels and vote. Don't vote to fuck the popularity contest that we have every four years. You know I'm saying 2020, 2024, 2028. You know I'm saying fuck that come 2026, we need to make sure we get our asses out here and vote and put people in place who can really do some shit for us on our local level. You know I'm saying what would you like to see? What would you like to see? I would like?

Speaker 1:

I would like to see the curriculum change in the school okay I think that's something because we help our kids with their homework, really because I'll be just as lost like them like that, but we both seem like we ain't sitting in the classroom that day.

Speaker 1:

But that's. That's political though. So, being that, this curriculum kind of got you like, huh even, let's not even put it into math, let's talk about history, because that's huge, the shit that's being taught in the schools. When you see your kids homework and it's around this time of year, thanksgiving and shit and they teaching about the uh, the indians I've learned like there's nothing wrong with saying the term indian. Okay, because naming those people after the people who fucked them over is more fucked up than calling them. And why would I call them native Americans? This place wasn't even called America, but I fucking digress. That's political. So, when it comes to voting for who's in charge of the education system or the educational system, shout out to Hurricane Chris. You know that's where I, that's where my vote matters. That's something I can feel directly.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like right here you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like right here.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Who's your governor, who's your mayor? Vote for that shit. You know what I'm saying. It's important too. It's important for representation. You know what I'm saying. However, what's more important, what's really directly going to affect you, it's them, small local elections, and the lines ain't nearly as long. They need to be. They should be and I hope they will be, but that's something even I need to get better at.

Speaker 1:

With these midterm elections, these you know what I'm saying I got to start making sure my people know and understand. Hey, get down there and vote, and this is where we can make some change. For sure, man and me learning that as well and I vote there more often than the presidential, yeah, to be honest, uh, especially because some of the people in our community, or people that we uh affiliate with men, are like councilmen. Yeah, we smoke cigars and stuff sometime together. So we me seeing that and knowing that and knowing, like hey man, that they are able to, you know, speak on behalf of certain things for the school or the city. Not that they can just write laws and shit, but it's like they exercising the rules that are already there. You know, they're hearing what the people can say and they need to amend something, they can amend something. So, getting to see that man, and for people who are aren't too familiar on political things or how, um, you know, the structure of policies and things broke down a little bit through politics you might, might not. I'm not a politician, even though I wanted to be. So I studied a little bit of how it goes. If I can break it down from the top dog all the way down, it'll go. Presidential is the president, is the top dog. He thought he's the CEO of the USA. All right, he the boss.

Speaker 1:

In each state's 50 states. You got two managers. So that's your Republican manager and your Democratic manager. Normally they're like state senators, the senators who oversee the state. Under them they have their team, they're the department managers. Mike DeWine is the department manager of Ohio, basically. So then under Mike DeW de one, he has his uh, representation of each county in ohio, somebody that's I forgot what they call that on the municipal level. You know I'm saying what with the county level. Then, after the county level, you got like your city councilman. That's municipal, that's local, that's within. That's your cleveland, that's your euclid, that's your cleveland heights, that's your broadview heights, that's, uh, the west side. That's a little bit of every city that you can look at. They have different representation in there. That sits on the levies of uh, sits on the board to be able to write and say things or bring up things for the schools and for the community getting road work done, getting homes tore down, like you said, food drives, community outreach programs, recreation centers.

Speaker 2:

All of those things is held like and the census is important too.

Speaker 1:

For sure, stop fucking running for these people when they come to see who live here.

Speaker 2:

Comply, God damn it.

Speaker 1:

That's the only way they gonna know. Stop being scared. First of all, the government know where the fuck you at, why you think they came there. They know exactly what they looking for hey, I'm looking for uh melanie we know you here.

Speaker 1:

You know you. Okay, we just coming to see how many kids you got, where you work, how much money you make. So they and the reason why they do this. But they want to know how many people live in this area. So they know, okay. Hey, I mean, you know, I guess I'm being kind of silly, but okay, we're going to put a Popeye's right here. It makes sense. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We'll put a recreation center in this neighborhood because there's a lot of young kids around. They're going to need something, a pool. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? A fucking basketball court. Remember Pride, the movie Pride.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

When they came and took them rims down. That's political.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when they shut down the basketball court.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they fucking just took the rims off the hoop, left niggas with a backboard. They in there playing fucking Hitting rocks.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. It's hitting the backboard.

Speaker 1:

That's what you're talking about. Right, yeah because it's like hey, well, no, ain't no kids around here? We can see there's plenty of kids around here doing that shit. But if the census shows hey man, it's only you know what I'm saying 68 children under the age of 12 in this neighborhood, you know, and my number's a little you know funny.

Speaker 2:

But like, is that a lot?

Speaker 1:

I don't know what's a lot, what's a little bit of kids. You know what I'm saying. But you know, hey, it's a basketball court over there. We don't need two.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying Everybody, come here to play basketball, because that's a city budget to maintain.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

We'll use this for somewhere else. Take the rims down. We'll tear it down in 2027. Don't worry about it. Can y'all leave? I would love to, on some huge the entropy type shit, break ground in a neighborhood of like a park. Bruh, you hey, listen, listen, you read my mind, man, especially being that you diving into real estate. Now I know, eventually you want to get into a commercial property. Yes, sir, alright, so there what it may still be. But there's a building I want to own into commercial property. Yes, sir, all right, so it may still be for sale. There was a building I want to own, a moon.

Speaker 2:

While I'm planning a Saturn, one of them stars.

Speaker 1:

But there was a building for sale off of 25th Archwood, which is not a bad neighborhood, and say, when you're going to buy property, at least a commercial property, and you go, man, I really like the building, it's nice, it's been updated, it's full of tenants, it's got a couple of vacancies, but whatever, I want to buy this building, but I'm concerned about this neighborhood. Don't let that scare you away and say, okay, you know what, I'm going to buy this property and I'm going to be a big fucking hand in cleaning up this neighborhood. For sure, get these drugs out of here, get these guns up out of here. You know what I'm saying. Now, we sound like bitch ass niggas, right, you know, we sound like furious styles, but real shit, though, like you know and like that, that's part of it, man Especially. You know we talking about running business man. Of it man especially. We know we talking about running business man and if this is a good opportunity for me, my children, my family, I want to do this, but I can't let the environment ruin. You know saying what I want to take place and make sure it's cool. You know, and even when it comes down to man, we can employ some of the people around here.

Speaker 1:

It's the reason why poverty is the way it is it is. Is is one of the reasons why crime is the way it is. Yeah, with poverty comes crime. Well, if we get hungry enough, we don't be hungry before. Yeah, man, it's why we start eating this way. Yeah, I'm 65 like next.

Speaker 1:

Hey, man, so I would I would love to do something like that man and, uh, get back to the community that way. I would love to do that. Talk to. That would be a city council kind of thing. Yeah, potentially Like Mook Robinson from Richmond Heights. He own Diamond Cut Barbershop. Hey man, I want to go into the city and build a. I want to put four slides up. Nigga, how do I?

Speaker 3:

do it, yeah. How do I get the four slides up? Nigga? How do I do it? Yeah, how do I?

Speaker 1:

Six rims up in the city and that's three courts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Y'all either can get a tennis court, basketball court baseball you got to pay for the land and shit, but I would love to sit in one of them seats and be able to have that conversation At the same time. Grow to become a pillar in the community, just like your councilmen, just like your churches, just like your barbershops, your beauty salons. Yeah, for sure I understand. Gentrification always is going to happen. We just most of us over the last 10 years found a word for it, but gentrification has always been around.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, always been around With the old and with the new you ride down 105, nigga don't, don't blink. We lost that neighborhood is gone.

Speaker 2:

Certain set like all those big ass homes. Once you hit the experience, oh, man.

Speaker 1:

But um, uh way, park those. Oh, my goodness. You know I wanted one of them houses. When I was a kid I went. I was in like high school, I had a law class man. I think I shared this before. But we was a kid, when I was in like high school, I had a law class man I think I shared this before but we was talking about buying cars. I was looking up property in that area. Those houses they were abandoned at the time. Yeah, they were abandoned at the time On average. All them fat ass houses look like they belong in EC and if you know, you know EC got some beautiful fucking houses too, used to be top notch.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness that cemetery ain't sitting right there for no reason. Some billionaires in that cemetery. Okay, those houses were on average $105,000. No pun intended, it was only $105,000., it was $105,000. Like this one on three, this one on six, this one, no pun intended, it was only $105,000, it was $105,000.

Speaker 2:

Like this one $103,000, this one, $106,000, this one. These bitches big as hell duplexes and shit.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. A friend of mine had stayed over on $106,000. I got one fix it up. I'm not sure if they still live there or not, but shit was beautiful. And we talking when show my age, show my age. But you know, now they've been bought up. The VA is right there. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Cleveland Clinic yeah, and so you know. Remember, like years ago, man, they tore down that hospital that sit right there off of Martin Luther King Drive. You know, it was a hospital right there. That was like our go to hospital in the hood, somebody get shot. That's where we going, that's where they going. You know what I'm saying? That shit was gone. And once again, nigga census, right, if we ain't participating in the census, hey, ain't nobody live here. Take that fucking hospital down. What do we need a hospital for in this community? Ain't nobody here. Nobody lives here.

Speaker 2:

They on the road Fucking library and shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, shut it down. Nobody, even fucking, lives here.

Speaker 2:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

I'm saying so, you know, we certainly hold a hand in destroying our own neighborhoods too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, we hold some of that state, we hold some of that state. We can't just be pointing at the white man. Oh they, no, we got to of putting work in just on. Our level is just caring solely about where you live. Yeah, cut your grass, take your trash out front, paint the hive. Paint the hive, do them leaves, manage your children, oh man, okay. So, kj, I always got to put a story of my baby in here.

Speaker 2:

No way, okay, kj, I always got to put a story of my baby in here. No way, okay.

Speaker 1:

So the other day I was having a conversation with KJ and he had brought up about getting in. You know he got in trouble in school or a little mischief or whatever in school and he had said like I forgot how it turned out, but it was like, hey, man, we'll come up to the school and kick your ass.

Speaker 2:

Who said that?

Speaker 1:

Me as a parent. I said I come up to this school and kick your ass. And he was like you guys get in trouble for child abuse. I'm like you must not remember at the time, or was never told, like at the time, that the teachers used to whoop the kids. That's a fact. Yeah, I just used to whoop the kids. That's a fact. I'm I used to get paddled. I'm like. So let me ask you this you do you think mom and dad don't come up to the school and kick your ass because we're scared to go to jail because you're saying it's child abuse, or do you feel like that? Hey, we, we talk to you like remember, he get ass whoops, he get it, but it's far and in between, I ain't one of them.

Speaker 1:

Whoop your ass, dad. First type of thing. I'm'm one of them. Whoop your own ass. I'm going to have you whoop your own ass. Okay, you're going to do this. I'm going to have you do that. You're going to learn the skill. I'm going to have you work so much. You might have preferred to get your ass whooped, but you still had to do all the skills too.

Speaker 1:

That's the goal, you would still do that Everything. Go back and appreciate this shit. Oh yeah, man, because it's going to kick in man. So me expressing to him like do you think mom and dad don't kick your ass like that? I said child abuse. I'm like do you think mom and I don't abuse you because we're scared to go to jail, or we don't abuse you because we love you and we're not like those kind of parents? He's like because you love me. I'm like no, nigga, tell the truth, because you sure enough believed that you're shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nigga felt like he could have called the police and I'm like, bro, don't let the internet get you fooled on. You can say fuck that, don't let the internet get you fucked up, son. It's like, hey, not that some consequences of things may not happen of us fucking you up to a level of severity, you're right. However, if you were to get in trouble and this is the point I made to him if you were to get in trouble and then they investigate your household and see that you had a dad, they'll say I failed as a father. You got a daddy and you acting like this, yeah, he should have fucked you up, should have kicked your ass.

Speaker 1:

Remember, sometimes the strongest gotta be he got the lessons gotta be brutal. Sometimes for some people it gotta be brutal, it got. You can't just gently talk to a person and they get it. You know I'm got to be tough, you got to be assertive. So I say this man you know I digress on my KJ story he got the picture, he did. But a conversation that happened, you know, right after that with wifey and I with Vanessa. Now shout out to Vanessa my baby. What's up, sis? She had mentioned just on a level of discipline within herself of her as a woman, and I would love for her to be able to say it herself one day on air so people can get to hear it and see, hear it from her as a woman. But she had mentioned she, as a woman, needs and prefers a certain level of man. She, like you, know what my discipline is. Is my man sometimes being disciplined on me, my man sometimes getting on me a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you know, I may be shopping a little bit too much or I may be, you know, slipping a little bit here because I'm not yeah, we may be stopping, but she's like, hey, I like my man to be able to be a man and you, you know, keep me in line, keep me navigating. She's like my discipline is somebody being disciplined on me? And when she said that, I was like I respect it and I can understand that because I understand, just say, from a male perspective, a coach, yeah, I was going to say, like a gym partner, like a coach. Coaches elevate your talent. Coach coaches elevate your talent, not good coaches elevate your talent.

Speaker 1:

Bad coaches rely on your talent. Yeah, they rely on you being really good compared to like, no, nigga you, you can always be better than you, can always be more crisp. So that discipline on there and them getting to see the reward I, that's what, how I calculated it of like, hey, I respect you as a woman, saying that I think some women would love to be able to hear that and hear a woman, a woman's perspective of hey, yeah, I'm disciplined and I can do shit and I handle things too. She's like, but my man is a man, that's a man and my man be, he'd be on me if I get, you know, look, you know, I can get a little crazy, it's like, but he, he'll reel me in.

Speaker 1:

I get you know you know, I can get a little crazy, but he, he'll reel me in and get me right, like as as I, as she would say, like as I want my man to do. She's like I got enough self-control, of course, like, but if I'm not aware, hey, baby, you, uh, you know, hey, and she's receptive to it. Now, well, it ain't always been like that. But in that, in that, in, in this sweet ride we on right now, hey, I can approach and say, babe, stop spending a ball of fucking money. And I say it in a tone so it can't be said, it's my tone that I'm telling the truth.

Speaker 1:

What Mika say is she always say like you keep me grounded, that's her turn. She's like you keep me grounded, that's her turn. She's like you keep me grounded, you know like, because you know it's Christmas time right now. So it's some counters that we want to get done in the mudroom, at the houses. You know some DIY projects, you know what I mean. I want to get a new vehicle soon, you know. So we, you know discussing finances and shit like that. So she bring up these counters. She's like we should get the counters For the new year. I'm like bae, enough shit going on Right now.

Speaker 2:

We gonna be in a boat In June.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. So we certain shit, you know Planning for that as well. Wanna get a car, it's enough Going on at one time, but then you throw on. We can do about that. We got four kids and each other moms and shit. We got to get shit for Chief Holly needs shit. You know I could benefit. We got but Salt Night Bay After Christmas. Let's drop that low first and then let's bring in the countertop. We don't need countertops every month. We ain't Christmas shopping every month. I make my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Just fine, up here, right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we ain't Christmas shopping anymore. I make my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches just fine up here right now. Yeah, yeah, but that's one of the things she kind of like and that's what she say. Like you keep me grounded. It's kind of like hold tight, we ain't had it this whole time. Hold up, don't put too much. I don't like too much shit being on my plate at once.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I get overwhelmed with this first. In this case, let's get Christmas out the way. You know what I'm saying. Please, like fuck that. Let's get that done first, then we can bring in something. Oh well, let's get two things off the plate and bring in one. You know what I'm saying and just tackle, shit man, those conversations are healthy, bro, those conversations?

Speaker 1:

are healthy man. I think they overlook some time of y'all being able to sit down and talk about like micromanage the small things in a relationship, like finance, like budgets, like define the responsibilities of handling things. Man, I'm not a, I'm not a. I've seen it on other shows, I've heard other people talk about it. I'm not really a big fan of like the 50, 50 or like this the dude, like they hell bent on it. You're not a man if you don't pay all the bills. It's like nigga, she is neurosurgeon.

Speaker 1:

damn, what the fuck I need to be bopping floors for my wife can't be great, not that staying home moms aren't great, but my wife can't be amazing and be married. Yeah, hey, I thought america was a melting pot. I didn't think it was just like some what's the I don't know communists. Like everybody think it's one way, Like I didn't. I don't know, Don't quote me on communists, so check this out.

Speaker 1:

I want to take this so if you see a successful married woman, she's a neurosurgeon. Let's go ahead and be extreme. Look at her, not knowing her husband, and say her husband ain't shit, he ain't a man like what. I'm pretty sure she would say my man is fucking everything to me. You know he helped me get through school yeah, like not just financially, but like really helped me get like bang. You know you got homework flashcard. Yeah, all that shit. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, man, it is man. It's so much more that goes into a relationship than just money.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying, and that's important too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you had mentioned on the other show man that, uh, finance is one of the biggest things for, like, divorce. Yeah, it's one of the biggest reasons for divorce. Yeah, so the yeah fucking and money Fucking and finance. But I believe that, hey, man, a lot of people. I don't think that more people have more money than the next person. For real, I think people manage their money better or differently than the next person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because I had that, hey, man, like I was told before, man, I was thinking about this reminded me what I was thinking about earlier, when I was driving I had to send my finances to therapy For real. I had to send my finances to therapy. Hey, you need to talk to somebody here, go Go to therapy. Now, you know, I'm the therapist, you know and I'm, you know, advice and shit like that, but I had to send my finances to therapy.

Speaker 2:

Man 2024, you know, it was kind of like, hey, you know it gets to the point where you're like, hey, y'all don't fuck up, we too. All right to be All right, I'm going to get the four for four. Let me see, y'all got some fries in there. Y'all want no?

Speaker 1:

no, no, no, no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm being goofy man, but you know it gets to the point where you're like hang on, let's look at this shit. You know what I'm saying. I try to tell my little brothers this shit man. Shout out to Jerome man, his brother's birthday tomorrow. Shout out, bro, this nigga be 22. I still everybody. I be fucking with him, man. I hope he hear this. I'm having an event at my house. I get everybody. I bring out my glasses and shit. You know what I'm saying. For the drinks. You know I bring that nigga plastic cups.

Speaker 1:

You bring that nigga, one of them, razor Canes cups, the little baby one, the cups. But shout out to my bro, jerobe, happy birthday, babe. Happy birthday to you, bro. But no man. But when you really break it down and look at this shit like freedom speakers, when was the last time you looked at your bank statement and break your shit up in categories? How much did you spend on entertainment? How much did you? We was talking about them. Subscriptions yeah, hey, dive into them, subscriptions, and see what's coming out your account. Dive into them. Chick-fil-a trips yeah them. Fast food runs, man, nothing, hey, man, most fast food runs ain't nothing less than probably $11. Yeah, and not that you can't go, but imagine I'm going to just get, hey, you know what?

Speaker 2:

Imagine just cutting your fast food trips in half to start. Nigga half.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. If you're one of those people who say you eating out on average one and a half times a day Average One and a half times a day that means you getting breakfast and lunch, you going Instead of packing your lunch. Start packing your lunch three times a week. See how your finances change. They'll be packing the fucking food you bought the day before okay, get some groceries.

Speaker 2:

You know, yeah, I pack these wendy's no no, but just little shit like that.

Speaker 1:

Make it a good like I'm gonna pack my lunch on monday, wednesdays and friday not friday, that's the day to go that's the day to go, one day, your appetite changed when that direct deposit hit you. You feel, okay, you saw me earlier, that little punk ass burger. Pay that tomorrow flat as fuck and get a day's double. Yeah, man, but I'm a, I'm a. I'm a huge person when it comes to the finances, like I'm a huge person when it comes to financial literacy, I'll be able to ask you shit hey, man, I, I, but I swear by it and I only give my story like there's no secrets.

Speaker 1:

If I give you, if I can give you that there's no secrets, is there's really a level of discipline. It's really, uh, that's the biggest thing, that's the biggest one. Uh, it's really a level of discipline. It's really of um, budgeting making yourself a good a budget, like man, sticking to the budget and disciplining yourself to do it. Especially, you got, you know things you want to do and I'll say remain goal oriented. If you're like man, I want to save a few bucks for this, so I want to do this or do that, you know that. That that data discipline you that way, most people.

Speaker 1:

I got a vacation coming up, I got a trip coming up you, you'll find you working harder to get what you want you know what I'm saying Mika got her a savings book, got the little pockets and shit in there.

Speaker 1:

You know it's a, I want to say it's 100 pockets, but in each pocket you put that amount in that pocket. So in pocket number one you put $1. Pocket number two, you put two, number three you put three, so on and so on up to a hundred. So when it's all said and done, I want to say it's fire rack, but you, um, you got a hundred in this one. 99, 98, 97. Add that shit up and we can do somebody. Do Maverick real quick.

Speaker 1:

Let me know how much that is yeah, but it's supposed to, you know, and she been putting that little okay, and she don't do it in order. Okay, $1, $2. She'll skip up to $48. Go back to $12.

Speaker 2:

I broke $100. It's for the change. Yeah, like okay. So I got my $96 in there and my $12 and the $19 and the $34.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. But it's good shit, man, and she big on that and like been rubbing off on me with it. You know, I'm saying it's like, yeah, I want, yeah, I want our shit to be solid, yeah, and that's the same way with it. Like I mean, I, I'm addicted to money. Okay, like I'm addicted in a healthy manner. What you told me a long time remember you telling me this? You said, nigga, I become addicted to saving money. Saving money, yeah, yeah. So now, now that I learned different versions of saving money, meaning like saving cash won't never make you rich okay, to never get you rich, it's a scary

Speaker 1:

um, uh, applying our country runs on credit, runs on debt. Okay, it runs on debt. It doesn't run on money, runs on debt, which means everybody owe everybody's wives always an exchange bargain like a bartering barter. You know what I'm saying? Um, get you some, man. I always stay like get you some credit, that's your cushion. Get you some and you ain't gotta use all of it.

Speaker 1:

But it's like man, they, they really happy. If you come in and ask them for money and if you look halfway decent man, or your your shit, look halfway decent and somebody some bank a deal with you, man, they give you two hundred dollars. They're giving you what they feel like they can potentially afford to lose and you're just getting yourself into the door. So just grow from there. I promote to people like I got very addicted to saving money, especially when I, when we, got in business, because you get a whole new set of bills, man, you get staff and stuff like that. You got insurances, you got 941 taxes all of that, man, in this tax season now for us. So that's, that's what has me reconciling and in the next two weeks, bro, I'm gonna get real passionate. You're gonna hear me reflecting on the year. Don't be come up like I'm gonna go. I'm gonna have them miles for you for sure, on jan'm gonna go.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna have them in my eyes for you for sure, on January 3rd I'm gonna have them bitch bet, bet. Cause the accountant be on us yeah, he be rushing us like hey, I don't wanna wait till fucking April 15th yeah, get extensions now we in September. For the last two years, bro, I ain't had to get an extension and I felt pretty good man me and Mick we end up owing.

Speaker 1:

You know you hit a certain point that refund should over with, but we always end up owing. You know, now the days of getting a refund is we're about to get $12. Alright, you want to pull it, but we need to change our deductions. That's why y'all end up owing more.

Speaker 2:

Like for most people.

Speaker 1:

So it's like another $60 each per pay would come out. And then when you do the math, it's like, yeah, that's why we owe, so we need to change our deductions to where more is coming out weekly. So then, come the end of the year, we may not get a refund, but we don't owe shit. I need to do that this month for sure, man, and most people. I'm no huge guru on it, man, but I love kind of giving people information that can you know they may be overlooked, like most people don't know how to fill out a W-4 form or get a job. And then, after 2020 and Trump got in office, like it really changed on how it was set up, had a household, how many dependents you got. It was real straightforward. It puts you in a tax bracket. It makes you know what tax bracket you in.

Speaker 1:

But for most people who get larger refunds, they took more federal taxes and things out of their check and most people don't really make that much money, so they get a larger refund back, uh, at the end of the year. And it's not even like and I say this too remember everything you spend is taxed. Everything you go into the corner store, your shit tax you go into the license bureau, get shit tax, your gas tax, your food, it's all tax. So you're paying mad taxes. Yeah, you're paying double taxes. You're getting mad tax throughout the year. So for people who are in a substantial place, you are taxed at a different percentage or a different level. So it may be sometimes in your best interest to have more dependents or your order to take more money out.

Speaker 1:

You, you make an honest payment of them. Y'all can deduct. You know a little bit more, so that, like you said, you aren't on, and if you do, you give me, you may get a few hundred dollars back if anything. But you didn't, you didn't. You didn't live to well throughout the year. You satisfied uncle sam and, hey, you satisfied yourself on man, my car, my kids, my this, my that, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So it, yeah, I won't come to end of 2025 because they sent our estimate for 2024 already. Hey, bitch, don't be guessing. Huh, yeah, they, it's called predictions, they just be predicting. But uh, so she opened the shit. She's like damn fucking 19.

Speaker 2:

I'm like 19, what oh, oh.

Speaker 1:

It'd be all right. Yeah, yeah, y'all at a place too, man, y'all, y'all.

Speaker 3:

Y'all look like that 5%, but yeah, but it's like you know, it comes with education.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. So let's learn. In that it's kind of like all right, come 2025. Let's switch up them. Deductions long term. You don't see that shit until 52 weeks later and you're like oh, hey, man, nigga now the income time.

Speaker 2:

okay, cool, yeah, the annual recon man the annual reconcile they call it.

Speaker 1:

Yep, we gonna do that. So for people freedom speakers, just giving y'all this clue man, for a lot of people out there that lie and you know all kind of different scam ways. But I know most definitely, when I was growing up, that was the one people would lie and say they were students to get that student credit. The government be knowing, ok, the government be knowing. And when they reconcile, as an employer, the same W-2 that we send the employees, we send the city, the state and federal of money that we spent and who it was allocated to, when you go to school and say that you was a student, that's tuition, that's money, it's numbers, they can be like oh, I had nobody enrolled in this bitch name, this nigga, they didn't have this. This motherfucker ain't no school book. So how the fuck is they unschooled? And then sometime you can be like, hey, man, I'm taking online classes at the library. It's like, show me some transcripts, show me an F motherfucker, show me, you failed at least a class.

Speaker 1:

So but when they reconcile to the government and most industries, most businesses, have to file taxes or at least report. You know some, you get it's all classified different ways. But because we have employees and we are a business that has to classify and show funds and stuff where we're going, where it went. So the other institutions have to do it too. So when you may have turned in three or four of your w-2s to h&r block to get your shit done once they enter into this system of you claiming you as a student or you claiming deductions, claiming this, they're waiting to get reconcile numbers from.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you said you spent five thousand dollars over here as a write-off. We waiting for them to show a $5,000 credit that they got from you, right, okay, and if it ain't that bitch, that's where you get audited. You know what I'm saying? That's where you get audited and they start be looking at your shit. Especially, you might can get away one or two years, one or two years but when you start making a career out of that, they'll send them federal IRS agents knocking at your door. I know personally, man, shout out to Joanne Gross. She was the first one, and then it was one I just went to earlier this year. They tried to say that I was the linker for some taxes last year and I'm like, no, I had a credit. I was proud of you for that.

Speaker 2:

I was proud of me too. I walked out a free fucking man. Oh shit, you know what, Mr John yeah.

Speaker 1:

He's right. I had to go back and start whispering and I promote for anybody that when you going in there dealing with the IRS man, bring representation, be nice one, be nice, comply, but don't pay them more than what they don't owe, what you don't owe them somebody on the phone that's them calling now. I heard you talking about, but uh, that was the IRS calling.

Speaker 2:

I heard you talking shit, man, I heard you talking shit.

Speaker 1:

We gonna get your bitch ass End of the year, nigga. Yeah, man, they sent out notices you ready, especially since man we gave Raises and shit. Oh man, hold on, you spending our money, you spending our money. You still delinquent on something. You still gotta pay us. You shit. You ever know like I've been like reconciling with debt and shit like that, and so once you settle some shit, them other motherfuckers are like hey, hey, hey you.

Speaker 2:

Remember 2018? Remember that, yeah, yeah. So I heard you're feeling good, you better you up you up what's up how much?

Speaker 1:

So when we, in 2017, 2018, when we bought our first house, that's what happened to us. We, we, oh so I owe taxes at that time. And it wasn't just taxes, it was tax lien. Like all of this is public knowledge, man. You, it wasn't just taxes, it was tax lien. Like all of this is public knowledge, man, you can go look it up, it's public knowledge. And when you go look up the tax lien, look up the tax release too. They all clear that's right, All right, Hit you with the fat Joe For sure, but yeah, but it's like hey to see how much money I made to see how much money I owe, let you know how.

Speaker 1:

But hey, hey, but the irs is vicious, bro, like vicious and they're gonna. They take your shit. But what we end up doing was to make. We had to show our home was gonna cost x amount of dollars to put down and we had an fha loan 3.5, but we still had to show x amount of dollars inside of our bank account and the way in order to do that, we had to give ourselves raises to be able to do it within this time before we close. Yeah, the company had to give ourselves raises to be able to do it within this time before we close. Yeah, the company had to finance. But then, at the same time, this was me learning more of business, of we financially putting ourselves in a dire straits and we didn't need to when the company said in fact, when it really is a healthy, it's a healthy financial exercise, depending on where you sit at like the company to be financially broke, but you doing okay, so that if something was to happen, hey, you can dissolve the company and start over, or you can build a company out on your own, compared to nigga, you gotta keep moving and shit because you fucked up, but that's different financial strategy. So, learning that we gave ourselves substantial raises Soon as the second direct deposit of that motherfucking shit hit the second cycle, you know it's like oh, we start getting letters from everybody.

Speaker 1:

Must have been a mistake in that second one. In the second one they like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's the new pay. Two Fridays. Oh, call him. They ain't about to let a month and a half go by and be like six pays. They might be three pays, they might let three pays, but they start sending like oh, man, you owe this on your credit, which was healthy for us anyway to get clean. Because clean our credit up, because it helped us with the interest rate. You know what I'm helped us with the interest rate. You know I'm saying if you got a, you know you got a decent credit score, you can get a good interest rate.

Speaker 1:

Um, we had, we were self-employed, so it showed like hey, man, we made good money, but we weren't um w2 employees at that time, it was just a sole proprietorship of me and nessa was an employee got you, but we were at a financial place where we needed the structure to be an escort where I can give myself a substantial salary. I really was just living off books. You know I'm saying really living. I had a budget but I'm really living off that for myself. But glad that we switched over to escort because now, like I said, I'm a w-2 employee. I get the same benefits that all the employees get, um, and I'm healthy negotiating on good shit because I use it too. But we learned that let's make it so, bring the full circle. We learned that gave ourselves the substantial raise.

Speaker 1:

All the people that we were delinquent with, that we needed to pay off anyway, start reaching out and normally it's uh, it's the uh, not the court, the, the lawyer's reaching out, especially if it's going to collections. The lawyer's office is like, hey, I was willing to settle. But at this time, bro, like I said, I owe Tom one a cable. That shit got up to the $131 bill that I ever paid. That got up to like $300-something. That got up to $500-something. These niggas was willing to settle for $237. Clean you right off your credit. 500, some dollars. But these niggas was willing to settle for 237. Clean you off. Clean it right off your credit. Remember it's on the business side. It's money already paid in debts. Like they already lost it. They already wrote it off as a loss. So now you just covering your debt and really regardless of paying the money to them, and really you paid yourself to get out of jail free on that shit for real.

Speaker 1:

That shit helps you it comes, your credit, I don't care if it show, oh man, we will save. Whatever you say, it's like hey, it's one less, nigga, I owe, and that's what people who loan you money look at. Look at like, if we were to give you this money and something was to happen, who could we get it back? How far in line are we to get our money back? Who else do you owe? And that's what it be like. Who else do you owe? So I preach that. I preach that. I preach it.

Speaker 1:

So, niggas, don't be asking me for fucking money or feel like that I'm telling secrets or something. We're out and coming with some philosophies Like no man, I got punched in the mouth by the government by not managing this shit, right Okay, by the government. By not managing this shit, right Okay. Read them, speak, understand your bands, budget your shit, make the bank your friend. They're willing to give you money. People used to rob the motherfucker bank because that's where the money at. Nigga, get your shit together together. They'll be more than willing to give you some money and they're really easy about you not paying them back on time. They'll just take it out in blood or interest on your shit. They give you time they a lot easy, hey, man. Hey, trust me, you ain't gonna have to fight to tell her you don't pay back that $20 on time they ain't gonna have to fight to tell her you don't pay back that $20 on time.

Speaker 1:

They ain't trying to bust your kneecaps out, they ain't gonna leave no dead rat at your door Is it a horse head in your bed? Nah, man. But freedom speakers, we actually forgot to start off this beautiful episode with our prayer that we usually do.

Speaker 1:

We practice. Bear with us on, you know, missing it at the beginning, but we most definitely, definitely, definitely, did not forget to bless you all with a prayer at the end of this one. So, lo, looking to end this off in prayer, I got you For sure, for sure. Freedom speakers by your head, chief. Dear Lord, thank you once again for bringing us together. Thank you for this day, lord. Thank you for the rain. Thank you for the snow, lord, we thank you for each and every person listening to this podcast right now. Now, we hope that you've used us to reach their ear to hopefully gain something and learn something, so they can use something in their lives to benefit themselves and ultimately give you the thanks, because it all turns back to you, god. It all turns back to you.

Speaker 1:

You are the reason and as we move even deeper into this holiday season, lord, we want to thank you for the snow, thank you for the feet, thank you for the boots on our feet. God, we know and we're grateful as people in this world who aren't as fortunate as others, as fortunate as we are, and as we look to move through this journey, we look to also keep you with us and we hope that you cover us, lord. We ask that you reveal to us your, your will, your will, and we hope that every day, we're moving in the right ways and saying the right things and teaching the right things and being good examples of stewardship, being good examples and even role models for men like us, for women who need somebody to talk to, for children who need someone to listen to God. Thank you so much, god, in your son, jesus' name. Amen, amen, yeah, solid man, hey, freedom speakers, thank y'all so so much, so so much.

Speaker 1:

Once again, man, me and Chief, we greatly, greatly appreciate every single one of y'all. I mean that, I mean that you know and thanks for being here along with us on this journey once again, and we gonna catch y'all on the flip. For Chief Ali, I'm Laylo the Most, and this is Permission to Speak.

Speaker 2:

Freely.

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