Permission 2 Speak Freely Podcast

Strategy + Consistency = Success

• Chief Ali & Lay Loe Tha Mos • Episode 27

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Every journey begins with a step, but not all paths are clearly marked. From the eclectic vibe of Lounge 87, I'm Chief Ali, bringing you an episode steeped in the raw, unfiltered realities of entrepreneurial growth. Join me and the indefatigable Marcellus Clay of Full Surface Painting Company as we delve into the essence of evolving through entrepreneurship. 

We reminisce, laugh, and perhaps even spill a secret or two about the hustle it takes to turn a dream into a thriving business. You'll want to hear how we've both navigated the twists and turns of our industries and why taking well-deserved breaks is as crucial as keeping the momentum going.

This is no ordinary conversation. It's a masterclass in mental fortitude, a testament to the significance of mentorship, and an honest reflection on the support systems that keep us grounded. 

Wrapping up with a sneak peek into my  BNBOSSN Business Academy curriculum, I lay  my own blueprint for financial discipline and empowerment. But it’s not all work and no play; I also extend an invite to my sanctuary, Lounge 87, where deep thought and relaxation go hand-in-hand with business and networking. So, whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, let this be your fuel for the week ahead — an invitation to recharge, rethink, and redefine success on your own terms, with a little guidance from those who've been in the trenches.

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Speaker 1:

This time you will have to Welcome to Permission to Speak Freely podcast. This is me, your host, chief Ali, and in the studio with me today. Well, actually we're not in the studio, we at lounge 87. In here we get slumpy, dumpy, okay. We get to talking a little freely, sometimes healthy, lucid the lips, but seeing some of the things that we really need to say, I got my man in. Returning recurring guest Marcellus Clay owner of. Full Surface Cleaning Me. Owner of Full Surface Painting Company.

Speaker 2:

No, at one point, at one point in time. At one point in time, like I was doing like cleaning flight to a lot of your apartments and stuff that I was paying for, so the name you know. Honestly, you wouldn't even be wrong about the like it happened. The shit didn't happen.

Speaker 1:

It happened, see. I didn't make a mistake but actually spoke up some truth, man For sure, for sure, man, man. So I'm gonna bring you up to speed on a couple things, man, I've been working. So I've been working. One of the things that I've been working on was music production. So freedom of speakers.

Speaker 1:

I've been tapping into a little bit of my beat making and producing for the podcast and I stepped into music a little bit, making instrumentals beats, looking to work with a local artist and just global artists possibly, you know, but I was able to create a beat, make some samples, speed them up, slow them down, put some drums and things over them, and was able to make something, some things that are pretty catchy. I got a chill lo-fi, hip hop type of beat, but some things I kind of connect together because I just like the sound of it. Man, but that's what music is. You kind of, you know, pushing Ben sound. So I ended up creating a beat called trenches by chief Ali.

Speaker 1:

You can go stream it on anywhere right now. You can go stream this song on all listening platforms. It's chief Ali trenches. Go look it up on Spotify, amazon music. It's taking a while to get the Apple music and I've learned I should have predated it five or seven days before the release date, which was the date that I submitted it to the DSPs. So I should have said release date seven days prior. So it could have. It could have did its thing, man, but beyond that that was one thing that I've done. That shit is fire to you all.

Speaker 2:

Fire, like some Tarrant, like, if you like Tarrant's Martin type of music, like the hip hop with, like the jazz, the smooth type of like melly type of beat. Trenches is what you're looking for. Trenches is what you're looking for, because when I heard that shit I was like, oh, this shit just made my morning for real.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, thank you, thank you for real. So go, look, go look up and search. The song trenches by chief Ali is on YouTube, apple music, spotify, everywhere. Go check it, run those numbers up for me. So I say this man, as I start tapping into media a little bit more, making beats and using those, the certain gadgets that came on my MacBook, the iMovie garage man, a lot of that stuff helped me, just happen, to be more of a creative. So I actually am looking to switch the podcast, not just having it audio, but having it video as well.

Speaker 1:

I'm working with a great, great talent from the Cleveland area, desmond Clay. He's a videographer, so he's going to produce a lot of the video podcast moving forward for us and then he's going to create the introduction to the video podcast, is going to help create that. It's like it's the day in the life of chief Ali, what I do every day get up and I meditate, find my balance. Man, thank the universe. Tapping to dad, knock that out. Tapping the husband, handle him, go be about myself for a little bit and it's like I'm my true self, my raw self. Then I go put my other cell phone when I go to work. You know what I'm saying, when I got to interact with different people and you know, put my different cell phone when I'm a son, different cell phone, one of my big brother, little brother, so on and so forth. Man, but he's going to help bring that visual to life in like a music video, esk, but cinematic.

Speaker 1:

So I'm very excited for it. This is pretty much like his audition to be able to us to work together on more art and be able to really show Cleveland together. Man, you know a collaborative view from you know his vision, my vision, and we kind of putting it out there letting the people be the judge of it. You know the freedom speakers here on the show. So I'll go. I'm very excited for it, I'm looking forward to it. Freedom speakers, I would love some feedback. Let me know what you think.

Speaker 2:

This video coming soon, that's big facts right there like that sound like some, like some real, like major moves. As far as Taking the vision from, as far as taking the vision from Audio, like you said, to actually making it, you know it's picture, you know making it into something visual and that's gonna help the, that's gonna help the audience and the people who are tuning in and even, like newer viewers, that's gonna help them tune in like a whole lot more. And then you know nothing. In my opinion, nothing is nothing is more inspirational than being able to see inspiration at work and still in the process of still trying to even, you know, still, you know build, to even still get to where you want to be a. Often times we see people who are already there and it's harder to relate because you know they're already there. So it's like, okay, like we get to a degree, but it's like to actually see and witness a journey like that's the type of stuff like I like to, like I like to watch, like I'm in it, like I like watching stuff like that, seeing Journeys and seeing.

Speaker 2:

You know people evolve, you know Evolving to the people who, like they're supposed to be, you know whether it's a, you know Whether it's a good story, or it could be, it could be one of them stories. It's like it's a cautionary tale, is like what happens when you decide to. You know, go against it doesn't go against the grain, and do you ain't me also, and do you ain't supposed to be doing making a movie. That's what we making. So I Look like that, like that's an amazing idea, like I definitely feel like this, that like you're trying, like you're really about to take your real. I take the podcast like Like a whole nother level for real. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I hope to. I hope to. I hope to be able to take the use the podcast as the catapult and be able to speak to the people more, match a face to a voice and A lot of what few of the other projects that Desmond and I are gonna work on will give the visuals of the Operations that our world, our transportation line, our adult day center and our residential center, which is still me, our residential housing, which is 24 hours a day. We command about 30 people, five administrators, and then we have people on the payroll who are contractors, like our lawyer on a retainer, our Accountant a retainer you don't people, mainly them to, you know mainly them to. But Seeing how I get to interact with the, with them, the family, I have to make sure I'm staying, you know, on top of things. So having a visual and this person kind of seeing that day in the Life of me and how I interact with things and people, it gives a hefty backing to Stories that I speak about on the show, especially being an entrepreneur businessman.

Speaker 1:

This year, 2024, march, march 23rd, will make 11 years We've been in business. God willing, man, I'm still a. I still got my certifications and audits and Documents. I still got to turn into who licensed me. You know who my checks and balances as the owner. I'm still being able to keep my government contracts and my local contracts with insurance companies and things like that. I still have to walk those great lines as well, owning the transportation line as well. I got a Got about 16 tires, sometimes all at once you know, for eight vans as the 16 tires.

Speaker 1:

So Making sure we have that and that we here, once the vans get a certain age, we can, you know, flip them out and we can, kind of, you know, wash the fleet, keeping insurance up on those, when people just, you know it's the law to have insurance with people team to tend, ding things, so just it's. It can weigh heavy mentally on the operation and the maintenance of keeping things, you know, going. But I'm built for it, I'm thankful for it. The video was showed the the office locations of the show, our fleet of vehicles in and out of the show, like our homes, the glimpses of it.

Speaker 1:

But he'll get a chance to Bring this vision of me to life and what my day is, with a heavy, heavy dash of humor. It won't be Serious, it won't be. You know, reality TV that's drama sizes is reality TV, fully humor, like you get to see who I am and I'm a very comical person. I'm a comedian, so Everything will be magic. Most things will be, you know, funny but controversial. But it'll leave you thinking and educated, what you like. I want to Come back. You know I'm saying so. This person is gonna help me bring that to life, take that Stress off of my shoulders to be able to try to do that Videography myself and it's. I don't have the time to. I gotta, I gotta, just be the star baby.

Speaker 2:

I just gotta be the star so let me ask you this and what I think and what I was just thinking about this. So I'm like, well, I think, how, like what I I'm gonna start doing each time like I'm on the show and we get to talking. I want to ask you like, like we should just randomly ask question like when, what's the mindset that you personally feel like you have to be in in order to, personally, as far as like, because you know, like when you buy a hot wheels track, it has the instructions connect this to that, you know, make the curve what's the mindset that you, as an individual, has, that that you have in order to be able to try and build this role that you have no instructions to?

Speaker 1:

Um, that's a really good question, thank you. Thank you for asking that. From what I learned on my journey is Take as many breaks as you need to, especially if there's no directions. You don't want to get too awful progress that you you can gauge. You know I'm saying Never stop moving. You know, matter what direction, just keep momentum. And sometimes you'll have to take a step back because you didn't learn a lesson there. You got to learn that lesson. You got to kind of re-up and recoup from that to learn how, how do you got to go through that to get to that. You know I'm saying so, I'll. I'll say that I'll say Give yourself, be easy on yourself, do your research. Okay, do your research. Make really good guess hypothesis. One of those Psych yourself Sometimes, like what I find me now at the place, is I'll have the vision in my mind of how I need to start, execute, finish, have the tools to be able to do it, but then I won't have the energy to move it. I won't have the energy to move it.

Speaker 1:

I do it another time when, as soon as I think about it, I've learned as soon as I think about it and I see the process I gotta do. I got a strike water, iron hot, as they call it. Once I let it feed, it's out or fizzle down, it's gone. Now I'm sitting there Kind of like it was too easy for you anyway. It was a bullet anyway.

Speaker 1:

So, keeping yourself mentally Like happy or as up as you can, I tend to find myself willing to do things when I feel good. You know so I'll. I'll say that man, and I say probably the biggest thing is acknowledging you. There is no map. So what is right or wrong? What is like? Can't beat yourself up about it, but Give yourself a pat on the back foot just moving.

Speaker 1:

You know how many people stay stagnant. You know how many people feel like ignorant. They purposely make themselves ignorant. I Can't. I can't live in that type of bliss, can't live it, because I know too much. Once you've expanded your mind, it just does not Deflate the same. It only don't go back to the same shape it was.

Speaker 1:

So Freedom speakers anything or any advice that I can give to any listeners. That's a hustler that's Out here hungry. That person is really looking for direction, looking for a way you, you looking for signs, you're looking, you're putting yourself in positions, hoping something happens. Like that, that something will happen. Okay, you have to keep moving, you have to keep going. You can't dictate when your break don't come. You can't dictate it. But you got a man. Opportunity will come. But when you showing yourself and you showing up and you putting yourself in positions, opportunity will catch your scent. Man I'm, but it doesn't, it won't it? That's not coming to the talented person in. That's just not exposing themselves. You have to expose yourself. You have to take that chance. You would and this is where I'm sitting now, even with myself of like giving this advice, because I have had to sit during. I'm sitting there now in a whole another space with the podcast, with the music production, with the media of hey, this is me Having art or things that I'm proud of, that I've created and done. Give me your opinion.

Speaker 1:

So I'm, you got to be ready for the ridicule. You got to be ready for that and be able to bounce off of that, because it's going to come and a lot of it is mental because you know, somebody hitting you can sting, but what somebody else they say can stick with you, it can just stick with you and you is just playing in your head. So, mentally, prepare yourself as much as you can keep yourself as happy, as much as you can program yourself for a good time. A slither sanctuary, program that, if it's uh, if it's lighting up your joint, if it's getting you your, your beer, if it's like a man, in my little cheat food and eat my little reese cup, I'm uh. If it's just, you know, flirting with your lady, if it's just, you know, whatever it is that gets you feeling good and get you, you get your mojo going. You can't forget to do the task Because you didn't, you know, tease yourself with some pleasure, but you got to be able to be like a man.

Speaker 1:

That's, I gotta handle this because this is gonna be my reward later. This, this drink gonna be my reward later. My love, my love smoke gonna be my reward later. Uh, you know, getting some buns gonna be my reward later. Man, and I say this, man Just speakin free, free as fuck. Man like I'm like Getting some ass, getting some sex in the, in the diet. That's all of about 76, 77% of the problems.

Speaker 2:

Man, help me think a little clearer. If I get to stretch a bit more, I'm like huh, for 20 years younger. Yeah, yeah, I didn't work that probably a good little sweat.

Speaker 1:

Right, you know what I'm saying. But uh, I feel, uh, I feel recreated, I feel worked out, I feel feel good. So I'll take that momentum and say, all right, let me go ahead and Get domestic on some shit, let me clean house on things, let me go to the business and handle some stuff, let me. But I, I'll ride that good wave. So it's, it really starts with the mental. If I can give any, if I can give anything, it starts with your mental. What you program start, let me, let me retract your start in your mental. Okay, I don't want to subject it to just one thing. It starts with you as the being. All right, I know people who would, some of you that they don't have brains but they got heart. They got heart. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

It starts with the being and whatever powers you have in there. Once you feel you want to let these powers out and these powers can come out through art, normally, through skills, through desires Once you let these out, you get to see how different, how the same we are by how different we are, how our art speaks. But it, though it's my art. You connect with it like music, like music is. This is why music is one of the most dangerous things, because you can, you, you can Make an anthem that people go to war to. People fight over, fight the power, fight the power that be. You know. I'm saying you got People get married to them, you know, have sex to them. People got breakups on, but it's like it's a language. It's a language man. So Use though it is, you got to use, you know, the door, your tools. So it starts with Now, start it's in.

Speaker 1:

It starts with the being, what you find within yourself that you want to bring out and share with the world. The world has the freedom To share something back, and everybody might not and their being have art. Some might have hate, my, some might have trauma, some might have been scolded by things that just they shouldn't have to endure. So when they don't know how to come up with something that's possibly beautiful, they're coming up with something that that's paying for ugly because it represents how they feel. You know so you got to be Lyrid that it's gonna happen. You can't have a good without the bad, can't have a good without the bad. You is just. That's the yin and the yang. Good things. So Freedom of speakers, if I can give any other advice is Learn to take the good With the bad. Happy ain't as happy. Happy ain't as happy without the sad.

Speaker 2:

No, but no, I agree, it definitely. I feel like it starts with oneness. You know, like Happens just understanding, having an understanding about shit. You know, I personally feel like when you actually just can just have like a certain like level of understanding, like whereas, like, some people may get mad about certain things if you can just say, well, you know, it's actually like this, but I do get it though, but I'm okay Like when you have oneness and you can actually understand like both sides of the fence, understand everything. At least try to try to have an understanding about things.

Speaker 2:

When situations arise, when you do try to like level up or even or here, like it could even be, it could even be like you start, like you start your business and you feel so heavily inspired as you just want to just jump and start Another one, but then jump start another one and just like what you're saying, like you know, even like with trying to build that road, you know you don't necessarily know what's going to happen, so long as you try, so long as you try.

Speaker 2:

But there's also nothing wrong with doubling.

Speaker 2:

There's also nothing wrong with going back and read, you know, and refining what you currently have, going on, even to just, even if that means you just want to just build up just a little bit more confidence and yourself to be able to take on, like that next challenge you know, or that you know, or that next thing, or whatever it could be never, things is just about being okay with where you wrap up, understanding that so long as you're trying to make these moves and do it, something's going to happen. Like you said, the universe is going to react some way somehow. And so long as you're from what I've seen so long as you're trying to put in the right type of energy and you know what your, you know what your goal is, you can see the bullshit come, but you won't, you know, even like that shit stick with you. Eventually you get to having, you get to having, uh, you know, dodging a bit like my homerally, like what? Like you didn't even touch my trick boy, you know, you ain't even touched me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's going to, and I think you mentioned it on the last one of the other episodes. After a while certain things will become automatic. You'll know it's gonna be a part of the game. You're gonna know you'll be able to predict a little bit better when certain things are coming. You'll catch a rhythm. So when you're, when you are this far in the game and I kind of give a lot of people Lately like the origins of us, you know, from sewer to entrepreneur, please keep continue to listen people, for you know those segments and things I kind of just drop in a little bit sometime from show to show. But when we started the business, you know, I had a mentor who I love and I'm really appreciative of the information man, louis Thompson. He gave me a lot of information. He was seasoned in this field, had his agency going, transferred his business into multiple other things and you know kind of he didn't live and die with Healthcare like myself. He, you know, ventured into other stuff, blossom into great things, but I continued to grow into this and tap into other industries within this. But he was the person who gave me the initial game of how to Get into the healthcare industry. Such as myself.

Speaker 1:

We are contracted with the board of developmental disabilities, dodd for short. We take care of individuals who have intellectual and intellectual and developmental disabilities. We provide 24-hour healthcare service, residential and we provide transportation. These are all three different business entities. Residential is a business on its own, transportation is a business on its own, and adult day is a business on its own. We run them all simultaneously.

Speaker 1:

It's we started with just drop-in sites. We started with just having the the wheel to want to work, having a hustle, and once my mentor was able to help me with the paperwork which is the easy part of things, as I sit 11 years in Documentation is the easiest part of running a business. Once we got certified and you got my I got the LLC and I got my tax ID, it was like Okay, I thought the money was gonna roll in. No, now it's time to bring your business business. Can you market, can you advertise, do you understand a certain level of sales, do you have a certain People skills, do you have a customer service voice, do you can you dress appropriately? So just a Lot of things that makes you have to step up on A different echelon level.

Speaker 1:

I knew how to provide care and to hand care. But I didn't know how to provide care through a business, so still Faking it till you make it. But I Didn't. I didn't forget to make it. Even before Business I was resourceful. I was a resourceful motherfucker. Now I'm a resourceful motherfucker Still still the same me just in hands, tapping into that. I can do more. I Can do more, I can help more. I can be able to Be that. But before then I was on the place where I needed help.

Speaker 1:

So I know how it feels to somebody giving you a break, throwing you some rope, giving you an opportunity, and you, like I, can't fumble this man, cuz it makes us both look bad. I fuck up on you looking out for G and then I'm sitting back. People mad yeah, nobody helping, nobody ain't they gonna top, ain't looking out. It's like it's hard enough for for him to Take care of himself, let alone give an outshitter, being generous or feeding people's entitlement. You know it's a difficult thing.

Speaker 1:

I was actually hurtful, but Just under understanding, like you, understanding your goals, understanding where you want to be. Everybody can't go and everybody won't go. That's another hurtful part of it, and we learn these things just early, when we would make like certain gains. We would get one or two clients and we would get some callbacks and even though they'll be so, be denials, but it still be like, hey, you didn't get this client, but hey, I got somebody else in mind. Or they'll like our personality enough and say, hey, I think this will be a good fit for you.

Speaker 1:

And Every little bit man I learned from my wife, learned from she's with me every step of the way. So, just, I always had a keen for hustle and knowledge, man for education, just a sponge, brah, I'm still a sponge. Now. I Got a little mule, you want me. I ain't got ringed out in a good time. I need to get swallowed up real good Swallowed, scooped and swallowed. But All of that man, you know I'm still a sponge to soak up that information and that knowledge and apply it. I heard Nipsey say one time like you know, I still game, I still hustle. You know I'm saying he like if I hear you saying something or doing something, I like that. You know I'm saying that I might, you know, borrow that from you. I'm saying just on some he pieces together.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like yeah for sure. So what I like to say is like, I mean, I'll adopt some of that. Yeah, I'll take a little piece of this, twist it up, boom, boom, boom, do a little thing to my own, but I guess I made it my own. But just showing how much to like, I see you, I'm thankful that I was around to catch that from you. Hey, this what I built from just just watching you on one of them, like, oh yeah, I guess I could see what you know I'm saying I can respect. It's all inspiration, bro, that's you know, it's all. It is man and showing. So I tell you this man Freedom speakers, if you didn't know, marcellus is an artist beyond just Painting homes and decor interior, exterior, things of that nature.

Speaker 1:

Man, he's a legitimate artist. I have artwork in my home of this man's that I know. Fucking. No, bro, one day is gonna be worth way is gonna be an astronomical number that People gonna be putting up their houses and cars to be able to like hey, I just want one of these. I want one of these Clays up in my home, right, this clay addition. You know I'm just making up shit. You can have it if you like.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

People buy art. Okay, so that's one thing. People buy art and art isn't one. It's a subjective Okay, just like comedy, just like music is subjective is. It may not be for everybody, but there's a value of it.

Speaker 1:

Go up when you got originals and then the person popularity pretty much goes up. Brother, you, oh shit, gonna continue to rise and I'm gonna be one of my motherfuckers coming out the back like, no, I got an original. Okay, I got an original of this man's man when we was just chopping it, smoking, talking shit and plans, and then we we seen these plans come to life. Now we live in the plans, right, which is a who freedom speakers to bring it full circle, from starting from business and nothing, with just a hope in a dream, to sitting sometimes In a place where I got a beat. Like I have to have a reality check from family and friends and and people who knew me before, a certain level of Success, if you will, that it keeps me grounded, it lets me know, oh, people like people who really care for me, who really love me. At the same time, it brings a certain, a certain feeling of like thankfulness, a certain feel of Y'all I gotta check my reality like am I really living what I said I wanted? I I'm like, I'm in. I'm in the simulation that I built myself. So it's. It takes people who love me to give me that reality check like, amen, I.

Speaker 1:

You may remember when your mama I'm gonna whoop your ass at the school one day because he was fucking up the teacher car. He just came to slap the shit out you in front of your class mates. Yeah, I remember that. Can one. I remember that, nigga man. I remember when you got hit by the car on Sandy. First you fucked that lady car up and you had your afro getting up.

Speaker 1:

Him is like damn you, right if I forgotten who I am. And it's like no, you, you, we know, you know who you are is just real niggas gonna remind. Keep them remind. They're on your ass too, just so you don't get out of line and it's you be told sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes there are, there are instances where you may not have a lot of people around you or mine of you, who you are. And it's funny that you actually mention it because, like I Fought myself recently, just like I, just I was talking my little brother, I found myself recently just like telling him, like you know, since I've started you know we're having you know doing business and started you know doing pretty good, I've been going back and like retrying shit that I necessarily Retrying shit that I gave up on, like you know well, it's like a video game or you know they could be retry to read, draw. It could be trying to draw or paint something. It was like you know what. Let me go back and try and see if I progress as like a person and Damn like hell, I've even sat like I like anime. But you can't really say like anime unless you're willing to sit down and watch like the full, like Japanese, and like read it Fool.

Speaker 2:

I was Benz watching Boruto, the story about Naruto son, like I was been watching that whole entire show, tried doing it before. It was just like yeah, I can't do this like, but decided to give it a try, give it a try again. It was good like even like going back and playing certain games that I might have given up on or felt like I probably Played the game a thousand times better. In fact, he took the time out to actually learn how to like actually play the game. So you know, but, but even, but, even more so, like just going back and just like, even like rewatching. Like certain cartoon shows I actually like watch, watch growing up, just rewatching it, or just actual TV shows, like it really didn't matter. But sometimes you need to like do little stuff tonight.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, some things that, uh, that can remind you of yourself, that remind you of like Good times, remind you like you say, that's this Nostalgic moments that's all I like to call them nostalgic moments take you back to a Placing your youth, your childhood, a good, happy, good, happy moment. You know I'm saying someplace that it's someplace that that only People who knew you we all didn't have nothing know you. You know I'm saying so freedom speakers. Have you ever been at a place or ever dealt with somebody and you had to get them a reality check and the good or bad way? But you know, let them know. Like, hey, baby, you know, I see what you're doing. I want to let you know keep doing what you doing.

Speaker 1:

I remember all phases of you. I'm happy to see you. Where you are now, baby, good job. Or Sometimes you could be like a Calm your wild ass down. You ain't the king of things, you ain't the queen of shit. You acting like your ass don't stink either. Let us know if you have freedom speakers, we would love to hear from you so more. I got one, one heavy question for you. When you find yourself at a place where you stressed out and you like, hey, man, I'm not, you know, I'm in my feelings of whatever, whatever, whatever. Give me just one or two things that you do that can help you kind of bring about it Well.

Speaker 2:

I try to, I try to, I try to, for one self, like, self-examine myself. So you know they're. You know like if it was, if it was a situation like I'm mad I could have like done better, make a better choice of like, or try to bit more Harder or whatever, then I'll definitely try more hardest to like, sit down and like, just really just analyze everything. If I'm right, then cool, like I'm right and I'll be fine and like I'll be fine. But if I know that I'm wrong, then like I'll try and do what I can to fix it. But so long as I know the fact that I've tried to do what I can to fix it, it whatever happens. After that it happens and I can't control it.

Speaker 2:

So I show my, I try my eyes, try to show myself a level of grace and like my, like meditation, when I meditate, I try to, just I try to find some type of grace, whether it is I'm right or whether I'm wrong, show myself from grace.

Speaker 2:

The other thing that I also do is Sometimes I see, sometimes do, sometimes I don't sleep, sometimes like I'll try my hardest to fall asleep and like I'll find myself back up Like two hours, sometimes even like around the same time, like by, like by four in the morning, I find myself just up and like no desire to watch TV, no desire to really do anything besides. Just still try to figure it out. I try to, I try to, I try to resort to Internally, like making sure that, like everything is like one up and up for the most part, so self-reexamining, making sure that like I'm not in the wrong, you know, or just you know, and then also to just saying, next time I'm gonna just do this so and I've learned that I've come to see that like my level of stress has been like I still get stress, but it's not as bad as like it used to be.

Speaker 1:

You've been finding yourself like in a healthier space, or you. What you've been doing has been working accountability Thing of the word accountability.

Speaker 2:

I've been just accepting accountability, even if I'm wrong, still accepting accountability Because honestly, I don't want a hard day. I don't want a rough day like none whatsoever, accountable. So I try to be accountable with whatever the situation is, no matter what, and that helps me keep a level of stress down because for one, it's like I can live with it. I can live with it whether it's good or bad. I can live with it. So long as I know that I actually tried to make a better outcome for it, I just let it go. I will stress like shit. No, I honestly shit. I stress when my pockets get low. That's what stresses me out, that's what makes me like, that's what turns me to a motherfucking bear. That's what makes me mad when my pockets get low yeah, pockets, get low stomach, get hungry man.

Speaker 1:

Nope, nope, nope, nope. We can't be friends right now.

Speaker 2:

What's this feeling coming over me? Sleep. I don't even fucking know you. I'm broke. I ain't got no sleep.

Speaker 1:

No, I gotta try and figure out how to get it Right. So I'll say this real quick man, when we were talking about taking this step back freedom speakers. I have curriculums that I teach through my Ben Boston Business Academy Just information I've learned just from a self-made entrepreneur. Information in my own, just pretty much my own story, but the financial things that I've learned. And then I'm still learning. I'm no financial guru, but I'm extremely disciplined. I am extremely disciplined. I am a penny-pension frugal, extremely generous motherfucker. I got a whole budget just to be nice.

Speaker 2:

I like that.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, just a whole budget to be generous man. But it's like, hey, I'll write it off as miscellaneous, I ain't gonna get this $50 back.

Speaker 2:

I ain't gonna get this $100 back.

Speaker 1:

Fuck it, it's in the wind. You know what I'm saying, but it's like I know I can't let certain things get below a certain margin, because not a machine not running smooth, just like, hey, you got to keep the oil and the engine at a certain level because, hey, this is optimal, it runs at its best, right here. Anything below this margin, right here, it starts getting serious, man. So when it gets to the money, when it gets to making sure you collect it, it'll teach you what to fit it, man. So it's a freedom speaker, there's a business on it. It'll teach you how you got to stand on business. It seems like that's the quote everybody's been using. As a businessman, I've been like shit, what the hell, what the fuck was you standing on before business?

Speaker 2:

A businessman would like to know.

Speaker 1:

That's for real, right? What were you standing on before? Principal Accountability, right? They land Just bull man, whatever it is. I'm still learning it, man. So in the Ben Boston Business Academy, this curriculum and I teach financial literacy, how to understand your bands, giving yourself really some discipline and accountability. So I have a.

Speaker 1:

When I launched this in 2020, launched the Ben Boston Business Academy in Davis, the different tiers. So the first tier was so you want to be an entrepreneur, huh? And in that first tier, it kind of gives people just the insight of what it is to open up your LLC or your S-Corp. So keep in mind for people, man, I just want to say this as a disclaimer. Okay, just as a disclaimer. All right, there are other classifications in business besides an LLC. Okay, I don't have the time today to get all into them, but I'll tell you how I am classified. Okay, I am an S-Corp, I am a corporation.

Speaker 1:

Public broadcasting broadcasted you about PBS Ken by PBS Ken, but we're structured as a corporation. It helps on the benefit of taxing. These are not negatives. These are government laws that businesses are privy to, because the business is what really keeps the economy going. Everything is operating At the gas station is a business. Yo, we man in business. You paying rent is a business. The grocery store is a business. Going to get your license is a business, all of that, all of that.

Speaker 1:

So the first package is hey man, so you really want to be an entrepreneur? Huh, kind of breaks down the curriculum of what it is to get into business marketing yourself, advertising yourself, getting you some lines of credit, things of that nature. The second package is hungry for more. That's where you have gotten a taste of success. You got a good system now of oh, I got some traction, I got to keep up with the demand. Now. Your advertisement then worked a little bit. Your marketing then worked a little bit. Your sales pitched and worked a little bit.

Speaker 1:

You got a good thing going when you meet people. Now you got a good personality. You got a good shirt now Got a good pair of shoes. They see you. You selling yourself. You're being Not just your heart, not just your mind, you're selling your being. So when they see you, they're like hey man, I like him, I like that guy.

Speaker 1:

So now you really putting in the work, you're trying to. You're hungry for it, you're trying, you are here searching, you're sharpening yourself up. You're soaking everything of your sponge. Once you hit a certain level in there is you're gonna be promoting up, you're gonna be developing things for people as you keep building. Which takes me to my third tier. That I teach was the money. Does the work around here? Now You've then leveled up and developed yourself up to now to, hey, you can't, you don't have the time to be out there working and tinkering on those vans because, hey, your time is better occupied elsewhere, devising plans and building relationships and gaining resources and just alliances, different places.

Speaker 1:

You gotta be able to speak, gotta be face to face with some of those things, can't be in her tinkering with a van. You've been developed yourself up in a position where you got people who are willing and want to do that. They're applying for it and then now you got potentially people in a leadership position that had they followed those checks and balances of those things, so that now you are developing. You want a place where how much that costs? All right, we got a budget for that. How much? What we need to do? Okay, we got a budget for that. Okay, man, you know we need what. Okay, hire somebody for that. You can't do everything during the development stage. Now the money takes care of it. Your money is working for you now it is handling a lot of the things in the business is why you get to see in any industry, 99 out of 100 times money solves the problem. So, freedom speakers, you can find me on Instagram. At permission to number two underscore speak freely podcast.

Speaker 2:

You can find me on Instagram at full service painting. You can also find me on Facebook by my name or sellers clay, and you also find me on TikTok at full service painting as well, for my videos and content as well, and uploading content for the show as well coming soon as well. So you're gonna be getting hit with it from multiple different ways, multiple different platforms and multiple different people. So go ahead and follow along, and what we're gonna be talking about on the next episode for sure is tapping into a visionary project that I have in my mind, something that I kind of like I really really wanna get into working like this year, a short film on pretty much being an entrepreneur. You know like it's like a mixture of like some eight mile type shit. You know along with, you know if you watched HBO's baller. So you know talking, making deals. You know closing deals, making. You know saying getting things going, but also to showing be the effect of trying to pave your own way, and the fact that you, you know you gotta. You know you gotta answer to somebody when you're trying to make a move for real, when you're trying to make multiple moves, you always gotta answer to somebody, but what it boils down to is this how the fuck does it make you feel in a moment and what is your fucking dream At the end of the day? My personal opinion, if you yourself have an exit plan, then there's no reason in the world why you can't succeed at whatever that you're trying to do. So long as you have an exit plan, then you'll always have avenues to be able to get there, because you already have you figured out your way out. Now just trying to figure out how to put those think, those gears in place to get there. So that's what we're gonna talk about on our next show.

Speaker 2:

Ken Wan, thanks again for having me over here. Good as fucking back as fires. Fuck for real Niggas. Feeling good right now, feeling always, always feeling motivated when I come through this is like you know, this is my, this is my church, this is where I come for to get fed, you know, to get, you know, to get re-strengthened. So you know, I appreciate you for being able to provide this space and, you know, looking forward to doing more shit man.

Speaker 1:

Oh for sure, man, thank you. So thank you for that man, thank you for that. This is my sanctuary. You know what I'm saying. This is my lounge 87. That is, you know, a certain, you know as a certain place in my heart. I, like, I spend most of my time out here. I think a lot out here, I handle a lot of business out here. Let's say, I spend a lot of time out here, I think out here a lot, I do a lot of business out here a lot. I smoke out here a lot. That helps my nerves. I'm, I'm, I'm at peace when I'm out here. This is my office. This is where, such as yourself, man, you come through to be able to, you know, hang out, kick it, recharge, get inspired, motivated. You know we strengthen each other and, you know, go out to the world stronger than we came in. Well, so, freedom speakers, thank you for tuning in. Once again, we out cheers.

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