Marsalis Clay of Full Surface Painting: Unraveling the Fibers of Entrepreneurship

Ever been curious about the journey of an entrepreneur, the grit it takes to start a business from scratch, and the rewards that come with it? Ever wondered how a CNC machinist can transition into owning and running a successful painting business? Well, buckle up, as we sit down with Marsalis Clay, owner of Full Surface Painting Company, as he shares his experiences, triumphs, and struggles in the entrepreneurial world. 

Marsalis speaks of  his roller-coaster journey of becoming a business owner, emphasizing the power of perseverance, creativity, and humility. He opens up about his personal struggles, financial hardships, and periods of self-doubt that have shaped his enterprise. Spanning topics from craft care and customer retention to tackling personal growth and leadership, he unravels the fibers of entrepreneurship, shedding light on the often unspoken pressures and sacrifices that come with the territory. 

We delve into the competitiveness of business, the importance of self-reliance, and the necessity for a transformative mindset. Marsalis shares the stories of his self-empowerment journey, offering a unique perspective on gaining confidence, problem-solving skills, and advocacy abilities.

 Join us for this enlightening conversation, packed with inspiring tales, practical advice, and invaluable insights on the entrepreneurial journey.

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Chapters

• 0:01 Entrepreneurship and Impact on Life
• 11:38 The Challenges and Rewards of Entrepreneurship
• 22:08 Entrepreneurship and Personal Transformation
• 32:28 Business Catalyst for Personal Growth
• 43:17 Business Challenges and Personal Growth
• 57:03 Flexing Business Success and Financial Literacy
• 1:05:45 Entrepreneurship and Life as a Leader
• 1:11:27 The Importance of Building a Business
• 1:23:40 Self-Reflection, Personal Growth, and Entrepreneurship
• 1:35:13 The Challenges of Holding It Together
• 1:47:02 Challenges and Growth of Business Ownership
• 2:01:50 Leadership and Self-Value in Business
• 2:06:10 Silence, Self-Reflection, and Parental Guidance
• 2:19:00 Prioritizing and Adjusting for Business Success

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

All right, today, man, we're gonna talk a little bit about the usual things that we do talk about being family man, businessman, entrepreneurs and how it affects our life, how it affects our livelihood, it affects the people that surround us, man. So today, people, I have a guest in the studio with me, Marcelus Clay, a really, really good friend of mine grew up with childhood friend of mine. We both sit in the seats of entrepreneurs family man, businessman and a lot of times we share and bounce information back and forth off each other just to be able to keep each other afloat. So, ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for my man today. Marcelus Clay, owner of Full Surface Painting Company.

Speaker 2: 0:45

How you doing there everybody.

Speaker 1: 0:50

Man. So introduce yourself to the people and let them know a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 2: 0:55

So my name is Marcelus Clay. I'm based out of Cleveland, ohio. I used to be a CNC machinist, went to school for it and then, honestly, you know I know how to paint. You know you know artis type shit. You know I've been painting for like, I want to say like maybe like 16, 17 years been painting, worked for a couple of different companies, for the most part Learned you know different ways of painting and different ways of doing things, but it honestly wasn't until it wasn't until I went to school to become a CNC machinist and start working, you know, full time there, but not a whole lot of overtime hours.

Speaker 2: 1:41

You know seeing like a little bit of money coming back but then still having to deal with like the same. You know whether it's, like you know, racial bullshit or you know just. You know, I'll just be honest dealing with everybody's energy. You know, dealing with everybody's energy like. You know, like sometimes some things are a bit too much to have to deal with, especially when you know, especially when you know that it's possible to actually be able to do more for yourself than what somebody's able to. You know, than what somebody tells you.

Speaker 2: 2:11

Agreed, agreed, I agree with that. You know, I kind of I've always, I've always kind of, you know, I've always worked, but I've always kind of like also had like an opinion as far as like how, like businesses like should be ran, how people should be treated, customers, everything, every situation is going to be different. Not everything is going to be like the exact same, but you know, for the most part, you know, so long as the money is important, but more so making a difference is what's important and, like you know, making it like I said, you can't, you're not going to make everybody happy. So I'm just going to say that you can't make everybody happy. It's unreasonable and it's impossible to think. But for the most part, so long as you know for a fact that you're doing you're absolutely best, especially like with providing a service, it's, you know, that's what I wanted to do?

Speaker 1: 3:07

How do you feel like you're changing your customers lives by providing a service to them?

Speaker 2: 3:12

Well, honestly, reliability for the most part being flexible, you know, especially like if there's like a situation going on where it's, like you know, I always like I don't choose colors, like I don't choose colors for none of my projects, like I don't I may give suggestions and hints but I don't choose colors. But what I will do is like if the you know, like if something like isn't right, I definitely want to try and make sure that my customer is happy. So I definitely will make sure like so can we go in a different color? Like what can we like, what can I do to you know, what can be done to make the situation a bit more better? So I feel like my reliability, you know, is good, but then also, at the same time, like the fact that I actually care about pain, I care about my craft, I care about how it actually comes on and it's done.

Speaker 1: 3:55

Hmm, how do you feel that your work goes into the community? How do you think that is viewed in the community by, like, I guess, fans, man, people who are following your work, following your social media, people who actually have taken part of your craft. You've done work for them, they've put up reviews about you. How do you feel like you've made an impact on them overall?

Speaker 2: 4:20

Like I made a difference, especially for the same effect that, like you know, a lot of times, you know a lot of situations is, you know, typically wasn't really happy with, like you know, the previous job that was done by somebody else, or it was probably the fact that you know somebody came and got a deposit and never showed back up, or, you know, whatever case might have been like you know, I just happen to be the different outcome for the most part and so, because you know being like the different outcome for the most part, you know that's allowed me to be able to have a lot of, like returning customers. You know even medical facilities. You know, since I've been within, this would be my fourth year of business next month and I, you know, just this past year, would have done, like you know, just this past year I did my second. I did my second urgent care. You know, and you know that would you know that would have done nothing but the grace of God and just for the simple fact that I honestly wanted it, you know.

Speaker 1: 5:22

So, yeah, so tell me this man, uh, freedom speakers, people who are paying attention, listen to this. This episode is for you. This episode is for hustlers, entrepreneurs, people who got that grit, who got that dog, you know, that's looking to step to the next level. Us as entrepreneurs, family men, business man, this is where we really talk gritty, we really talk for real and serious about the makeup of the man. You know, for the women out there that are looking for that man that has a certain tenacity about him, a lot of internals, if you will, a lot of internals. He got a lot of drive, he got a lot of ambition, he got a lot of goals. He has a lot of knowledge, emotional sense, he likes to challenge himself in a healthy manner.

Speaker 1: 6:07

Most of the time, us as men, like I stated to my wife earlier, most of the time, man, I'm the lazy lion, until it's time for me to perform. Until it's time for me to perform, I'm just in preparation to kind of get myself right. So when my number is called, I'm the elite, I'm on my shit. So her kind of understanding, that metaphor, like. So that's why you, like you know, do stuff sometimes like I do a lot.

Speaker 1: 6:32

Overall, up and up is more like I've been able to delegate certain power. I've been able to assist certain people, put things in certain positions that offer others to do it, so that I can handle what's solely just for me. Alright. So people who out there, who are looking to gain knowledge and want to level up and step in the business, keep staying tuned to us, the content that we're pushing forward and all the different information that we're looking to bring. So one thing that I want to say is thank you for coming to the show and sharing with the people your information, your livelihood.

Speaker 2: 7:08

I get it from you. I mean, let's just be honest, this is my sensei. Not only this is one of my oldest friends, this is somebody who I guess you can kind of say the relationship has gone from friends friends talking about video games and silly stuff to now we're actually sitting down and talking about how to get money and make money yeah, we have legitimate conversations that level you up beneficial iron, iron sharpening, iron conversations we as juveniles and kids, we would sit back and communicate about girls, what we wanted to do when we get older.

Speaker 1: 7:52

Now we sit in that place and we got the things that we say. Now we had a conversation of how we maintain it. Most of the time you have to give up something to get what you want and us, being entrepreneurs, knowing that's the nucleus of what we are and what we do not, that any of the title doesn't compare or have as much power, but I can't be that great of a husband that provides if I don't have the means to overall provide for the tangible things that are actually necessary. Of course I can show you a lot of internals I love you, I'm here, I'm respecting you, so on and so forth. But if I can't keep us warm, I gotta figure that out some kind of way. If I can't protect us or get a certain level of respect at work or in the world, or even with my family, I gotta be able to figure out how do I need to adjust, and most of the time, this information is things that are trial and error every day. Nobody has no manual to life per se, and people have written books and information to give guidelines. However, it has to be you who seeks. It has to be you. It has to be you. You cannot give up on yourself, especially when you get to see those that are around you and people who look to you, how much they actually look to you, how much they depend on your information, your knowledge for you to be the one that takes the step first. That's a leader being able to make the example and sacrifice themselves most of the time just so others can have a way.

Speaker 1: 9:25

If you're not ready to sacrifice yourself, if you're not ready to get up every day and still go in and do something that you don't like to do but has to be done, if you can't get up every day and be responsible even when you don't feel like being responsible, don't step into a full time relationship, because that's some everyday shit. Don't step into business, because that's some everyday shit. Don't step into being a parent because that's some everyday shit. That ain't nothing. That you get to take the days off and you gotta continuously push in and invest in that before you get any return. Okay.

Speaker 1: 10:03

So if you're not ready to sacrifice your time yourself, even sometimes your certain relationships, to be able to take care of many instead of just a few. Man, don't step into this realm of family entrepreneurship or business because at the end of the day, it ain't gonna be about you, my nigga, it's not. It's not gonna be about you until you put your paintbrush down and get a chance to look at your work. Once you get a chance to see what you've built, then you can get a chance to take a break and people will get a chance to see what you've done. Remember, once you build it, then they'll come. Before then you just another nigga talking shit. So I ask you this, man if you can give any information to any hustler, any entrepreneur that's looking to step into that next level, man, what information would you give them?

Speaker 2: 10:56

well, first off, I'm actually working on a book right now, and pretty much the book that I'm actually working on is I won't even hold you, like it's not, like it's a you know. It's like you know one, two, three to get a million. What I want to do is I want to get you out of your head so that you can actually get yourself into the position to actually be able to get to the point of being able to make the figures that you actually want to be able to make. This book is for the person who wants to be the entrepreneur but thinks that they are so imperfect and you know, so whatever that they can't do it. Well, if I can do it, you can do it absolutely, absolutely so.

Speaker 1: 11:38

I've known this man for many years and we both have had conversations with each other about the things that we finna do, that we bout to do, until one day we didn't hit each other up and was like, hey, I ain't finna, say finna, no mo. And then work began. Now. What we said today, and I'll be permission to speak freely- permission, I got the lighter over it.

Speaker 2: 12:05

Oh yeah, for sure, bro.

Speaker 1: 12:06

Yeah, that's part of it some days I sit and I have my moments of depression, and these moments of depression come through my level of survivors remorse okay, and that's where I sit now of. It's not about the money, though I know I need to make, that I have minimums that I need to maintain to keep things flowing. It's not about the products. It's not about how much money I have to spend to keep things going. I've been in it long enough. I've been in it 10 seasons to know things gonna be up and down.

Speaker 1: 12:41

What hits me and triggers my depression is when I look to hang out with people or I look to communicate with people.

Speaker 1: 12:50

I'm viewed sometimes as this level of celebrity that can't talk to me like a regular person, or that we don't have the same woes of my kids or my job, or I had to fire somebody.

Speaker 1: 13:03

Today I had to wear that, whatever my position is, or looking at it as being an entrepreneur, that we don't have problems.

Speaker 1: 13:13

Money fixes everything, and that's further from the truth. So when I had my survivors remorse kicking in, which is a form of depression, I get to look at the people I love or it's around me and I get to see that their time isn't theirs. It is mandatory for them to be somewhere else every day doing something on behalf of them and their family, but at the same time, a lot of them do not feel fulfilled or they feel like they're not even working for an entrepreneur that actually cares about them or has their best interest at hand. Knowing, one of the big things that we push as entrepreneurs is taking away the negative narrative of employee versus employer, when we actually both really need each other. So if I give you a little bit of history from myself, man and this is a segment that I want to bring forward is called from sewer to entrepreneur, and this is why I give the greedy information about what it really was to start a business.

Speaker 1: 14:10

The anxiety that came, the depression that came, the doubts, the naysayers that I had to be delusional to a degree and not believe the world because I had to believe myself. I had to believe whatever it was that I was looking to do was going to work, that I was going to push this shit forward, that whoever was going to be with me was going to motherfucking help me. And if you wouldn't get out of my way, because I'm trumpling the fuck over you and you have to have that mindset, man, you have to have it, you have to have it. All the mother, motivational speakers and people who are telling you, man, they give you the hey bud. If you just don't give up and you work hard every day and stay consistent, you'll make it to the stars. Are they lying? No, they're not lying, but they're giving you the short, sweet version of what it is.

Speaker 1: 14:57

Not a. You need to discipline yourself. Many by minute, 30 minute increments, hour by hour, every day. Do not waste and burn any daylight. In order to get ahead of the next nigga man, you gotta be covering twice as much, three times as much ground. You have to what most people are doing in five or six, eight hours. You need to be doing. You need to be doing eight hours worth of work and three hours, four hours, just to get ahead. Just to get ahead, okay. You going to work, punching the clock for somebody else coming home, kicking up your feet, drinking the smoke into just doing the bare minimum that you contracted won't get you nowhere, it'll just get you by. You really want to be the boss.

Speaker 1: 15:40

You really want to be an entrepreneur you really want to be the man, give up yourself. Be selfless, as we mentioned. Where does the selfless person gain? Most selfless people don't gain until they have to demand their respect, until they have to cut something or somebody off in order to reciprocate something and normally it's never generous of oh you've been doing this, let me give it to you. No, and the people who generally give, they gotta have a breaking point too. So, even as an entrepreneur, we have to give a fuck about people that we don't even know and giving them an opportunity for them to come in here and possibly steal time. Steal trash bags, materials and shit. Be mad as fuck at you because you hold them accountable. Man, do you know how many people quit their job when you hold them accountable? A?

Speaker 2: 16:39

lot, pretty much they're everywhere, they're fucking everywhere.

Speaker 1: 16:43

You tell them you can't do this or this ain't how this goes. And then they all ho ass, nigga. You black owned business, big bitch, fuck you. You don't care about black people for real. Ho ass, hoe and your locks trash. It's like damn I, because you keep being late with car trouble and keep getting dropped off by that whack ass nigga that we know be picking you up late. I don't ever shit understand, but I be seeing the fucked up situations then. Yeah, okay, I see that you make bad decisions everywhere. Not just it work, but I die right. So I say that to say, man, if you really looking to step into business and being hungry and that you will have to transform entirely, okay, you have to transform entirely because what you are building or marking yourself up to be will have to be.

Speaker 2: 17:37

These skills will have to be transferable can I ask them real quick alright, so permission to speak freely, alright. So pretty much like the thing that with me about business is that I've come to actually figure out and learn and actually love running a business like more than like really anything I've ever done in my life, and it's only because, like it's actually I won't even hold you. It's actually improved, like who I am, like it's actually improved who I am, like it's actually sharpened me and I realize that sharpened me because I've been diagnosed with ADD, adhd probably, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 18:26

I'm probably on that spectrum too, bro. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2: 18:29

I've had an IEP before. So I'm there like you know like. So right there, like let you know. Like in truth we told like the machining job, the machining job probably real talk, it's probably like the longest job I've ever had, like going on like five years, first time out, like 401. You know benefits, you know vacation off. Oh yeah, like I was a straight up nigga with the vacation shit. Like they were like starting off like you got a week like I blew that shit in. Like like two days off, like man like, but at a certain point in time cause I would go to the machine shop and I was still painting the summertime and I'm like I blow through this, I blow through it.

Speaker 2: 19:18

I don't get no callbacks like why permission to speak? Really, why am I making this nigga money when I can be making my own damn self some money? Nigga don't? He sits at home. He has about maybe like 10 or 12 painters working for him and he sits at home. I can actually paint. I like to paint and move around like I can't do this shit myself.

Speaker 2: 19:50

So my wife gave me an idea. Actually, my wife actually gave me the name. My wife gave me the name while I was actually trying to figure out what I was trying to do. The name just happened to come out of her mouth. I'm like, okay, yeah, we'll go with that, we'll go with that.

Speaker 2: 20:15

So it started off like and I'm gonna go back to my book again cause, like it even goes back to my book, my book breaks my book. I like I wanna break it. I wanna break it like I want to break it down, like we've been on live for like a little bit now. It's like y'all know how I can talk. I want my book is going to speak, just like that. I wanna break it down. I want to get you out of your head, because this is coming from somebody who, honestly, I didn't really start doing too good at school until I went to school for machine learning, trigonometry and stuff. I'm like but that's all, because, like you said, I was back into a wall. I had no choice but to learn. I was like okay, forget it. Adjacent angles okay, this is the formula. Alright, forget it. This is blueprint reading. I got it. Got a job I'm doing it.

Speaker 1: 21:06

So let me ask you this real quick, while this question is, on my mind, sound like a cliche question, but do you feel like you need pressure or challenges to bring out the best in you?

Speaker 2: 21:17

neither I honestly personally feel like I needed to just actually do something. I actually gave a fuck about.

Speaker 2: 21:22

You know what I'm saying I mean like not to say like that, but it's just like I paint, like and I'm good at it, like it's something that I was taught, like it's something that I've heard. Like through my fight he took it upon me, he showed me how to paint. He just made it his own, like I just it's what I do, but she ain't being as cool. That's me working for somebody else, making this guy some money and he's sitting somewhere in Cape Cod, somewhere probably on the boat. You know I'm like, oh, $2.45 to $10.45, no fuck that.

Speaker 1: 21:56

$2.45 to $2.45, you know what I'm saying like $12.00 for real like for what?

Speaker 2: 22:03

and then I'm still depressed. I'm gonna make a lot of references to like a lot of songs in my book too, but like, but pretty much like. There was a point in time where, like it was bad, like I was catching them, like I was catching the bus to go to work, I was barely really getting any sleep and I'm in my head just like this can't be life, this can't be life, this can't be life. No, this can't be life for real, and I refuse to give up on it only because I know for a fact that, like, if I actually just put my best foot forward and I can actually make something happen, I just get out of my head, did you?

Speaker 1: 22:50

did you feel like you lived there in your head? Was it safe for you in there?

Speaker 2: 22:53

no, no, no, like when you people use the word humble actually, no matter of fact, you talk, you talking. Yesterday you was like you was, like they say, be humble. Like I can't be humble. I don't know how to be that for real. The word humble, like it does exist among people, but it doesn't exist among me. I don't believe in it. I don't believe in it only because of the simple fact that, like, if I'm saying that I'm going to be humble, that means that I'm going to just sit here and just settle for literally whatever I can pick up out of life.

Speaker 1: 23:33

It's almost like being humble is almost like putting a cap on yourself. It's almost like, hey, I don't want to make myself better, I don't want to.

Speaker 2: 23:43

I don't want to make myself accountable for really anything or try to. That's the whole no like and that's the and like, just like. We can just skip all over it. It's literally. It's literally actually just being able to roll a dice on yourself. You get that everybody like the hell with this, like it should be shoveling snow and have a company and running in three different states. But wait, that's a business idea too. Hey, I'm just saying, like you know, when you business from me has given me something to actually focus on, yeah, you sit down and you tell me, like a hobby of yours, I'm gonna sit here and tell you how to make a business out of it. So, real quick, I'm gonna just go ahead and give out some free games. Get your listeners, get your freedom speakers some of them, some of them.

Speaker 2: 24:41

So just a free game. You can easily just sit here and just say, well, like doing this or the one thing everybody like doing this and everybody like getting paid for doing this. But maybe, like you give like like after hours special where you allow chilled wine to be sipped on, nice little drink, your day to be talked out a little let me make some notes for myself a little bit of decompression, while you're actually paying to be taken care of yeah, some self care, some pampering, and then you get a little buzz with some wine either that or shit.

Speaker 2: 25:21

You can make the greatest, the best cheeseburger there is and just cut it up in just different shapes. I guarantee you, I guarantee you. I guarantee you. I guarantee you that if you sit here and say that you know, hey, I make the. My cheeseburgers are the greatest. I cut them up and it makes me different. I cut them up in different shapes. Whatever your favorite shape is. I want the extra large triangle burger, extra large star burger.

Speaker 1: 25:51

I buy that shit, probably because it is shaped like a star yeah, yeah, I like that man, so I'm just saying no, I'm with you, man. So, freedom speakers, if you got any questions or concerns about entrepreneurship, please tap into the comments. Now, one of the things that I like to say, especially starting out as an entrepreneur and as you mentioned, man, I got a memory on Facebook the other day, actually yesterday, and it was a post about me riding my bike to work. I had no car at this time, man, I now drove my bike 5.2 miles to work and I didn't even have any money to get my car fixed. The couple last dollars that I had, I, actually, wifey and I, went to the Goodwill and bought a bike, just a real.

Speaker 1: 26:43

I put air in it at the gas station, I put some WD 40 on the chain, but I was like, hey, man, I'm a man, I got to figure this out. I got to still go to work. I'm thankful to have a job, but I rode the bike to work and it was. As I got to read that message, it was like a humbling experience of look how humble I was there, meaning my esteem was low, I didn't have much, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't account for much of anything and I was kind of living up to what people thought I would be just like an average Joe. But when I got a chance to get on that bike, go to go to work and then even for the next few weeks. But I just walked to work, I ride the bike with that windshield was fucking me up because it was October. November is around this time. I was riding the bike but I read that message and it was like, wow, man, it came a long way.

Speaker 2: 27:38

Me.

Speaker 1: 27:38

I had the same experience for like a very long way of, but I didn't have no car and today I got to flee the vehicles I have. You know, my own person, like I only have one car. I'm not. I'm not the businessman that has a whole fleet of personal vehicles, have a fleet of vehicles that are for me, but they're mine because I got to pay for them, all right. But therefore the staff they're one of the tools for staff to be able to get the job done quickly and adequately with the proper things that they need doesn't cost them anything to fix these van. Yet they be breaking my shit and stealing my shit.

Speaker 1: 28:15

You really want to be an entrepreneur? You want to get a phone call one day and your shit missing. You go walk up in your office and you ain't no office in that. Bitch Things that came in there and stole computers and got them fucking easels. They just still in shit to get high off of a person that they feel like a heat. Got it, he got it, he got it. I think I got it. How true or not true, that may motherfucka be, I ain't the lick, okay. So I say that to people.

Speaker 1: 28:52

I wanted this episode the most definitely before the entrepreneur like do you really want to be an entrepreneur? Do you really want to step into that realm? Not to deter you, but like to prepare you Okay, to prepare you of how serious they really can get, how much of a transformation of a person that you have to have to undergo? Man, the world don't owe you shit. The world would not bend for you and God ain't gonna just pick you up one day and place you right in the location that you want to be. That is not how God worked and I know firsthand. I got the nickel speed All right. So how God works is and this is from my version I thought God was gonna when I was homeless, in my crown. That's why that's my favorite car, cause I used to live in that bitch to. That was my apartment, that was my made back. You pushed them seats up, use real comfortable. It was like a, like a twin size bed in that backseat.

Speaker 1: 29:54

But when I was homeless, living in my crown, big due to my own issues, my own shit I didn't want to go back to where I was and I needed that level up. But I'm reading my Bible and I'm reading my Bible and I'm waiting for something to happen and it was like I came in with this quote like hey man, every most people, demons show up around 3am. 3am is still 3am. So I'm sitting there and I'm reading the Bible, and I can't remember what passage I was on, but I just kept, just kept reading it slowly, just kept reading it slowly, like I'm waiting for somebody to save me when I really could be saving myself. I really could be saving myself. I'm waiting on God. God will you, hey God. But I'm at that place and I had to keep just sitting there like just an awakening. I'm like I am a completely fucking still waiting to be saved, wasting fucking talents and abilities that I know that I got them have. I'm aware of what I can do when I'm putting the jam. I'm aware of what I can do. That being said, it was just like a.

Speaker 1: 31:25

The pressure I felt in my stomach at that time, or that pick I felt in my stomach, felt a little bit released and it was like I need to start making moves. So this is how God started to work for me. I thought God was going to just pick me up and the world was going to move around, and that wasn't the case. I had to get the moving and then God just moved the world around me. Once I got to move in, the world was dipping in dodge and he was moving shit out of my motherfucking way that I didn't need because I was on it, I had a goal and I had a purpose. It was blocking shit, trying to catch up to you, yeah, but I believe in signs and I say that, man. I believe messages are sent through me, through videos, through people, to music. You know what I'm saying. I believe that. So when I'm listening to certain music at this time, or I'm just kind of putting myself in this space, that I need more, I need to have more, I deserve more.

Speaker 1: 32:21

Every time I challenge myself to do something, that pit in my stomach just got a little bit lighter and confident to build. That. It was like a is tough as I thought these people were, as hard as I thought that these challenges will be. This really seems this, this really not as difficult. I had to just challenge myself. I had to get up and move. Nobody could give me anything. Nobody owed me nothing. So even in that room, with me sitting there feeling like nobody owed me nothing, I had to get up here and get out there and get it. Keep in mind.

Speaker 1: 32:53

I had great mentors and teachers that gave me information along the way. Nobody gave me a dollar. I don't want to say that loud and clear. Nobody gave me any money. They gave me information. Just as I give, I give information. If you don't use the information, what do I lose? You didn't pay for it from me. So if you, if I give you the game or give you information or I tell you that a, the Ben Boston Business Academy is free, I don't pay. I don't charge people to have a conversation with them and be able to help inspire, motivate or put them on the right track, or even send them an email, a link.

Speaker 1: 33:34

Hey, this is how you start. This is what you need to do Read this information, just like I did. I can guide you, but I won't do it for you, because I know the benefit of doing it yourself and how much you will learn reading it up or experiencing it, and not just me picking you up, putting you right here. I didn't do that for me and I ain't got. I'm just got like. So I can't do that for you. All I can do is give you the opportunity. So me picking myself up by my bootstraps, as they call it.

Speaker 1: 34:15

I gained a level of confidence. I gained a level of accountability. I gained a level of problem solving. I gained a level of understanding, comprehension of things. I've learned to speak more clearly, of indirect, about what it is that I want, with no wiggle room. I got a chance to speak on behalf of others who and or advocate for them, who didn't per se have a gift that I have of being able to speak or being able to recognize things. But once I got up and I challenged myself and I'm a competitive person I'm a competitive person. Sports made me competitive and business made me competitive.

Speaker 2: 35:00

I'm really not, though, but go ahead though. Yeah, business made me competitive.

Speaker 1: 35:03

It made me competitive of like a. I got a for us to eat. I got to kill you. I'm warning, but I be fooled. My family would be okay. But that's the competitive, isn't it like a rather be you to me and that's how business is set up. Because it don't. It don't matter what industry you in, people, okay, freedom speakers. It don't matter what industry you in doing hair, you doing nails, you you you painting, you do cleaning, you do anything repairing cars, houses, boats, trucks, selling pussy. Somebody know you and business you get under. Be it, you will get, you'll be like. So they charge them 40 for puts. You give me 40. I put my feet, hands in there and you can shoot it on my tits. They could get creative, like for 3875.

Speaker 2: 35:56

Because I'm like a monkey on your back.

Speaker 1: 35:58

You like I come on there dressed in the costume, whatever you want Cosplay, I call you what you want. Would you want to be Liori today? What do you want me to call you? Officer? You won't Package what you want, who you want to be, but business is competitive, like that. You cutting grass is like oh man, I cut the grass, I trim, I come, put the weeds man and I come and break the leaves and I do the snow is like, for the same price. But his business is competitive, is competitive. Us in health care. You wouldn't even think that is like how much more can I clean? I'm much more, cannot care, but it's still competitive of hey, you know what?

Speaker 2: 36:39

We'll discount our hand sanitizers, gloves, outfits.

Speaker 1: 36:44

We'll give staff bonuses, raises For some shit, something ain't even necessary, but it's like it get competitive or they'll steal your client. They'll steal your client. They'll be like, hey, man, you don't need no big company, right, I could do it for you, right? Like, yeah, I like you. And then next thing you know, you get in the letter of hey, you know, I don't want to fuck with you, no more. This nigga you fired, yeah, he took them with them. Yeah, merry Christmas. So you gotta protect yourself, or do not compete.

Speaker 1: 37:14

Clause or is just is so many different things in business that is almost law, and I say this freely as a business on a learning, this power and position that I'm in, I can understand why the government or white people, some white people, not all, but some white people in power in history proves this. These are facts that you can check. These aren't this isn't just me being negative towards a race or anything, but just meaning the position of power. I understand why they never wanted people of color to own anything, because now you have the power to give opportunity, you have control, and property was never supposed to have control. It was. You was never supposed to have control. You was never supposed to say anything.

Speaker 1: 38:00

And then, once you make the rules and they got to listen to you, my have the tables have turned, my nigga. But I've learned that of having to stand up and have to have these conversations and business with people that feel like I'm not supposed to be here. Shut up, never, boy You're. You're not that well off. Fuck you, I'll buy you out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry You're taking his biggest mind, white man, and I'm sorry that your white wife keep galking at me because you can't. You ain't got the tenacity to steal or the hip or the color to satisfy this woman to know, do you respect her in any kind of way? I know that you got to only handle one woman because you a bitch as nigga and you can't handle a flock of hoes whole ass, nigga.

Speaker 2: 38:48

Because you ain't got it.

Speaker 1: 38:51

You invented monogamy because you only can handle one woman at a time. You only got enough money for you and I know dick attitude, power to nasty. You only run the business world. You don't even run your household. All right, ho ass nigga. But I don't grass. But I've learned that if, like a man, business saved my life, I agree.

Speaker 1: 39:16

It saved my life. It saved my life of challenging me how to protect myself, have a value for myself. I care about myself way, way more than I cared about other people. If I can push all this into other people, I had to learn to give it to myself. I had to practice what you preach, as they call it. You know what I'm saying. I had to practice what I preach. Show myself love, put myself in the position to be able to help me so that I can turn around and help people.

Speaker 1: 39:46

If I'm only helping one person get, but so far, and I'm actually taking steps back on myself, that is not reciprocation and that is not progression. Well, that is not progression. So, if I can go, save myself and come back and save multiple people, which is the position we're in now, after it started moving and making some traction just in the world, and I'd never stop. I never stopped, but challenges kept on going, kept on coming, bumps and bruises. But I say this respectfully, with grace. Grace, I go out here and I fight the world every day. Most black men go out here and fight the world every day, and you looking at two black men that go out here and fight the world every day and we went in. We went in my nigga. Okay, you don't think you're going to have a target on you when you're winning. You don't think Jordan had a target on that nigga when he was winning, that niggas built shit together to try to take down his nigga. You don't think when the brown is winning, that they built shit to be able to take down the brand. You don't think it's a target at the basket.

Speaker 1: 40:58

I said every king dies with their hair cut off. And I believe that because as long as you up top, as long as you at the missionary position is going to be somebody going to give you some. Let you give them some back shots. I just know that. But those with the top peak of your game, you can almost have almost anything. You want to have a certain level of fame, a certain level of attention on you, and you're going to always have a certain level of hater. I always have just as powerful damn near hater as just as you. That can turn the tides on you if you fuck up, if you do any bullshit if you and they watch it, and it's a thing that it has.

Speaker 2: 41:36

A thing, though, is that like Business for me. Business for me is like I kind of feel like it's made me, it's made me a calmer, more sharper person, but also give me something to focus on Like I've never, like I haven't really. I've never really been able to like the focus, focus on, like certain stuff, but business like. The reason I focus on is because I'm like what I'm building right now, what I'm the word try, and even in the vocabulary the word can't, even in the book my kids be like at the dinner table with the homework. Like I can't do this, oh OK, if I just got off work, paint on my arms, paint on my head, I'd be like nigga, what can't like. We don't say that around here. Like you actually just go ahead and just figure it out. You know I'm saying like, just figure it out, but what that has done like it has pretty much like business has broken me down as a person and then has allowed me to rebuild myself into something just a bit more different.

Speaker 1: 42:43

So now, every time, every time. So I play this each and every single year. Ok, I was going to ask me because we sometimes, but not sometimes, we most definitely had conversations of realignment with each other. This is where I'm at. I'm at this emotional place. I'm feeling the low. Every time we've stated that we've always had a recurring conversation is like I got through this, this is this. But I had the question I want to ask is with each low that you have because members of different low used to be down here Me expensive?

Speaker 2: 43:17

paint. Expensive paint, expensive paint money it's all they spent.

Speaker 1: 43:22

Yes, as you climb, man right, your low is a little less lower than from rock bottom, but you know, rock bottom is very fucking close, high in his high, as you think one swoop can take you out. So I ask you, man, with each new low that you, that you find it comes with progression, but what, what part of you you feel like is broken, that you repair to kind of level up and do you take that with you to the next level. Oh, that's, I go hold you?

Speaker 2: 43:54

That's actually a deep question. I don't think I want to know.

Speaker 1: 43:56

Not fucking quiet minds, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I, I hold you like that's like, that's like I've never really thought like that that's like a question.

Speaker 2: 44:06

I kind of like a low key kind of felt like you like recent to like and I just like try to pull some shit out like that's that, like that was kind of fucking deep. I kind of feel like not really them by. Like I really like it for what it is done broke my mental and to be told like it's done broke my heart. Yeah, like it's done, like it's really broke my heart. When I quit my job, like real talk, like how like invested I was in myself. I was like he's supposed to be at work this day and me and my one buddy, we were like deep out in the Lyria. I mean, like you got to pay to like they pay toll booths and we just like you still drive, like you at the far, not on expressway, you can do that. So like we just going and I get out there and I got there and you know we're doing like a walk through these apartments. You know guy had like 30 units that he wanted done in like two months or whatever and I'm and I feel like businesses breaking me, like I thought you just broke me again. But anyway, but break through. No, no, no, no, no, no, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, seriously, more like like just for that, just for that brief moment, it was actually just like going, actually like actually kind of felt like I went down like a roller coaster but then I actually just got my shit back together like real quick, something just like you've been doing this, like you know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2: 45:56

So I go out there and we're walking around and the deal is not the greatest deal, it's just a lot of apartments that actually like if the mindset was correct, the work ethic was there and the right paint product was there and the right amount of time was there, it could actually be done. Can one me and my buddy, like we literally the guy, like it felt like a teeth, like a talk show, like a guy, was like a guy yelling man, like just think about it. And I'm like, yeah, like give us a minute. I'm like I don't drove out here, like I'll give you an answer now. I mean I can answer the next few minutes. We talking about numbers.

Speaker 1: 46:53

Can't win agreement.

Speaker 2: 46:54

He's all right, when you can start now. Man, I called Marcos pizza, which is like round a block, like that, like that, like that was probably like the last, not the last, not that irresponsible. It wasn't the last bit of money that had, but for the most part, like you know, until I got paid, like the next day, like I had gas in the car, foods at home, like it was cool, I got his pizza, I'm like let's rock out. And from then on, like I got fucked out there and materials got misplaced. No cabinets got scratched up. You know this. That a third, like you know. But I still kept going. Like it should be told. Like just know my character, just from like how I was like before, like when I was younger, that wouldn't have been me bro. Like that wouldn't have been me like bro. Like there was a.

Speaker 2: 47:48

There was one point in time Like I was just super comfortable with just playing video games. I was just super comfortable with it and then just flowing with, like then I had a kid come in the world, still was just on that and they had more kids. You know, like you know, you know, you know. You know they got married. You know they got married. They got married. You know they got married. You know they got married. They got married.

Speaker 2: 48:20

Like the more decisions that I made, it was like something gotta add up somewhere. And it ain't with this machine shop shit. I get that it's working for the moment but it ain't working for me in the long run. So like when I say like you kind of rub me down right there and then I kind of get myself back up, is for the most part like I kind of like that. That question kind of had me like I kind of had to really remind myself of who the fuck I really was. I kind of snuck in there and said that like I wasn't competitive, but now I had to really really think about it.

Speaker 1: 48:59

Isn't it?

Speaker 2: 49:01

Yeah, like yeah, like, yeah, like I really really had, like that that's that bullshit being humble, shit like I can't really do that. Like I've had to challenge myself just throughout the years of just making mistakes, financially hiring and having the wrong people on and Not doing enough myself, thinking I'm a boss. Now, mind you, boss has multiple meanings like and I'll be honest in my part of the pan being a boss like you could be employed somewhere, like if you run in the shit, then yes, you're a boss, but if you're also running your own business and control thing is control if you're controlling your own hours, you are a fucking boss. Yeah, like you're controlling your app. Like while I'm painting, I am walking around the apartment. Chapter two Okay, I'm on my like, I'm on my own time.

Speaker 2: 50:01

It was like I'm on my own time, like I'm so honed in. But I'm honed in because of the fact that, like I want my kids to understand you can do whatever it is you want. Yeah, all my children get like, so my dad used to be able to. My dad can still probably draw, but my kid, I used to be able to draw to my kids. All my kids can draw, like, from my oldest daughter down to my like down to like my third, my third youngest, like they all can draw. The new bro can't draw but, like you know, they all can draw.

Speaker 2: 50:40

And I'm just saying, like my, my daughter is like she wants to be a Disney animator. I'm like, okay, let's go. Like I'm so much better than the budget to go ahead and get her to the art book with the charcoal pencils or whatever. Like cuz they're doing, make the way. But also, at the same time, because I've been so tapped in with myself over the last like four years or more than that, I'm able to recognize in them certain signs are like yeah, like you could definitely do this yourself. Like on your own, like like my kids, like they just, they just have that mindset and that's what I want to do. Like I want to hone in on that, focus on school. Yeah, that's important. But understand, once that shit's done, you could do whatever fuck you want. And it's only because I'm trying to set you all up to be able to do what you all want to be able to do.

Speaker 1: 51:29

Yeah, and demonstrate that it can be seen it can be seen it can be felt no better word.

Speaker 2: 51:38

It can be dealt with. You can endure it, yeah, yeah, you can endure it because your father has, like I have, like I have grown so much just from doing it. Honestly, I can say all I really think about is business like 24, like it's 20, like it's a full time. It's a full time job that I actually love.

Speaker 1: 52:03

It's 100 repeat that one more time for the listeners, for even speakers. It's a man, call out and clear and say a slow form.

Speaker 2: 52:14

It's a 24 hour job that I actually love and that I actually enjoy doing 24 seven, but it's actually something that I enjoy challenging myself with. I personally feel like when you start a business, like you start off OK, like we, like fab said, you know leveling up, like you know what you start from the bottom, like there's nothing but going up, like and that's what I've always seen from myself, like over the past couple of years, like I've never really like dub back too much. I've always just tried to figure out, like what I had to do, to really just try to just stay ahead or get ahead yeah.

Speaker 2: 52:57

Whether it be going downtown every single day just filing paperwork to get a certification, just like I'm be, you know, qualified person, you know, to have a minority certification. Regas have a business and you're a minority, you know. Go downtown and, you know, get registered as a minority business, because a lot of these places what they won't tell you will like what I learned in the factory is that, like you pretty much like you have to employ like a certain amount of minorities in order to be able to get like a certain like tax write off or something like that in the year.

Speaker 1: 53:33

You know, you've been game, you've been game.

Speaker 2: 53:36

So if they're doing that to you, then why not do that to them and actually benefit from it on your own time? All you have to do is just really understand what it really opportunities that it gives you, but not only that. It's like going to school every day and getting up every day. You got to stay dedicated 10 toes down. You have to be able to, you have to actually want it. But it then gives us that, while you can want it for yourself, you have to be able to want it for other people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like you say it again, you have to be able to want it for other people Like I personally believe that each and every person has, like you know, I personally that everybody has an amazing quality about them. I believe somebody had amazing quality skill. I believe everybody has something about them that if they actually just sat down and it just was like, I put this in my book.

Speaker 2: 54:35

But there are a couple of questions that you ask yourself. Why do you want to do? Why do you? Why do you want a better life? Why do you want better? For you know why is it? You know what makes you qualified to break the generational curse of let's just spend, spend, spend, spend or retire with nothing. What makes you qualify I would nothing, Die with nothing. What qualifies you to break that cycle?

Speaker 1: 55:10

I feel like almost you just broke me, paul, but this is the reason we had these conversations. A lot of times they're private Freedom speakers. A lot of times, these conversations that we have are private and we call normally these conversations conversations of fate, because we're here discussing the fate of the people who are under our power, who are the talent that deals with us, and they're blindly building their futures on us, and if we slip because of the irresponsibilities of ourself, that clearly means we don't care about anybody who falls under our protection. Okay, so I did I lead into that of which you stated, of what makes you qualified, and that's a question that I recently asked myself, within like this week of understanding I get with the telepathy.

Speaker 1: 56:13

But I asked myself would make me qualified to lead, and I am huge on leadership. More on, I am a leader. I'm not the only leader, but I am the leader of leaders. Okay, other leaders look to me and I still look to them for counsel because I don't fucking know at all, but I surround myself with very, very highly keen, sharp individuals. Okay, I am a great ally to them and they are great ally to me and we both combine together for protection and survival for everything that we touch real leadership shit. We also take care of the people that that are a part of the team.

Speaker 1: 57:03

So, just a small little flex, because I feel like flexing. I know me. Don't throw anything out that I do as business or money and stuff like that, because, if you know me, that shit really brings me depression. Most, most people only really fuck with me because of what they see I have or I can do, or the power controller influence that I have and I can see through. That business has taught me to be able to see and feel and have that gut feeling of if this is going to be a healthy transaction or not. The HR position in business really made me feel like that, but one of the things I want to just say as a leader for all of the team that works with us.

Speaker 1: 57:42

We, as a business, pay 50% of their supplemental health insurance for them, that's life insurance, that's vision, that's dental, that's accident, that's what those is under there. However, I got a great, great agent who assist with all of that and as a business, we pay 50%. Short term disability. We pay 50% of that. Okay, 50% of my employees, my talent, I pay 50% of their health care. I don't have machines. We don't have machines. We have people have to take care of them. Not only do we have competitive rates, man, we have IRAs, we got retirement. The company will cosine If you contract in. This is business. This is why they don't want you to have control. They don't want you to have opportunity for the people who work with us. We, as a business, can. We can and have cosine for people's mortgages, for them to be able to say, hey, we can guarantee this person and a place of employment or X amount of time to guarantee that they can. They will not default on their loan. How many off? How many business niggas is giving them because leverage, not just giving you a pay rate, because even as a business.

Speaker 1: 59:03

But I teach the talent that come in there. You want more money right now. I teach you how to clean up your credit and the bank give you more money because you want to ask me for a dollar or $2, which is more than worthy of for some that are putting in the work. But if you want instant money now, let me show you how to get your credit right. I am not a credit person who helps clean and all of that's not what I do, but I'm a healthy person and business. That ain't it. I'm a flex a little bit tonight.

Speaker 1: 59:36

I've been living off credit. For years I've been living off a credit. My credit lines outweigh my salary, but I can teach people what I've done through my own trials and tribulations of what I've done. Hey, this is where I started. That's the real grit of more than just staying dedicated to your craft, and learning is like nigga. How do I leverage the game? How I'm already dedicated, motherfucker, I'm getting up every day with the money at what a dollar's at? How do I get them? Where are they? But that's the financial literacy.

Speaker 1: 1:00:16

So me learning in business of hey the team. We pay 50% of their supplemental health care insurance which elevates them to be able to obtain more, because they may only add the budget to get X amount of dollars. But now we pay 50%, it doubles, and maybe even quite true for some of a coverage for them. They need more. They want more money. I teach them how to go where I go to the bank. This is where I go, man.

Speaker 1: 1:00:43

Hey, this is what I have to say or do, but this is how I make myself attractive. That keep in mind their job, the bank's job, is to give money away. They make money by giving you money. But you can't go in there with no hope and dream. You can't go under Like I need a hundred and fifty bands, I'm gonna get my mama job, I'm gonna get my paint in here and do this. It's like bitch. How are we going to make our money back? What do you have now of collateral for us to even give you anything?

Speaker 1: 1:01:15

So, with me learning that I went to the bank, I didn't know nothing about credit, but I had dumb stuff on my credit that I had to pay and I had to make myself look attractive to the bank like I didn't need them, like a stuck up ass bitch, like I didn't need the motherfucker, but I really want you. You know what I'm saying. I can't do I can't really do it without you, but I got to act like hard to get. But if you're going to give me something to get it, I really don't need it. But thank you. You know what I'm saying. But I had to learn that make myself attractive, that their job is to give you the money. And if you learn and understand the bank, they still have a quarter. They need to meet as well. They need to open up so many new accounts. They need to get so many new credit cards. So many denial, so many acceptance. Their job is on the line as well If they can't get you approved.

Speaker 1: 1:02:02

So it's normally not a no, it's a not right now. Hey, clean this up, or you're going to get a letter in the mail of what you need to possibly clean. Or hey, look on credit karma. Or you know you can get a free credit report, but they just giving you game on leverage of yourself. That you may not even fucking know. You may not even know, but this is my story of. This is my story, but this is my story of telling you, like what happened to me, what I've done.

Speaker 1: 1:02:28

I was able to clean up my credit just for habits that we all tend to have. Man, we ain't black Saint broke, we just got poor financial literacy. We are rather beat flies fucking the backyard looking with the $1000 worth of clothes on instead of paying off that $1100 worth of debt. And then you can go to the bank and get a secure credit card. That's what I did the first and $300 got a secure credit card. Use that. Then, as I continue to build credit, I went in there and just ask one day, like I'm in the bind, some other time but what do I qualify for? Because you, what do I qualify for? Like I had to. I went in there and asked hey, I'm trying to do some things. What do I qualify for? Keep in mind I'm giving, I'm breaking through layers tonight.

Speaker 1: 1:03:29

I was operating as a businessman, like a hood dope boy, like the neighborhood and area that I grew up in, very inner city, that I was running the business. Cash in cash out, cash in cash out I had. I wasn't saving capital. I didn't have lines of credit. I didn't have any of those. I just felt cash was king and I didn't go to school. For business man, I didn't go to school for none of this. However, I survived 10 seasons in this shit and that's that need that's to be said. People buying houses off of us, cars off of us, extending their own livelihoods and business, and we help fund that, we help see that, we help mentor that.

Speaker 1: 1:04:08

I don't have to change the world in its entirety, but I change one person world at a time. I'm Jesus, I'm demonstrating my, my, my abilities. You wouldn't know Jesus was Jesus if you wouldn't demonstrate abilities. He walked amongst the people, right, so I walk amongst the people, but sometimes I flex on a bitch ass, nigga, and be like I get your whole teeth fixed, nigga. I put it on the dental plan and she be smiling at me. Really, use that grill for me. Really, bitch. But I got dressed, but I'm talking shit about the time, but I've had to learn that, man, and to come with a certain level of power that you can change people lives instantly.

Speaker 1: 1:04:51

Okay, I remember, shout out to my uncle deal and shout out to little day, david Jefferson, I was having a conversation with them some years ago, man, and just when I had a IRS, will IRS? And see, and we don't talk about that had a IRS will man taxes. That comes apart of being an entrepreneur. That's another payroll cycle you got to pay for. Basically, just look at it is paying the mob to stay the fuck off. Okay, pay your family, pay your family. But we was sitting there rapping and talking and they gave this reminder to me of a man Nigga. I could change bitch phone number, change the bitch curtains and living room set in the whole house. He, like a nigga. You could change this bitch whole area code. You could really check this bitch somewhere else, like.

Speaker 1: 1:05:45

But I say that to watch yourself because you could be a lick. You could be a lick to these bars, you could be a lick to any motherfucking bike. Damn you, right, man, let me slow the fuck down, you right, let me give my shit, right. All right, who licking dope, like. But just a conversation and realignment of like. Hey, man, we know who you are, personality wise and the gifts wise and what you do, and we know that your personality hasn't changed by obtaining tangible things or material things. My job is to give it away. Keep in mind, as an entrepreneur, my job is to give the money away. I got enough money for me and y'all and I got what you got to be qualified. You got to be how you're the right attitude. We can train you for whatever. That's normally any position.

Speaker 2: 1:06:35

You got to trust you. Yeah, they got to trust the vision they got to, and that's the thing. Like, sorry, like they got to trust the vision, I mean, and that's it. Like Visionary is everything. A visionary is a person that the think about it from the beginning to the end, like they know what the exit plan is. Like it's to running a business is like looking for thrills, the greatest heist of like your life right now, because you're trying to figure out each and every single move, while trying to duck and dodge, like certain shit, while trying to keep your mental together.

Speaker 2: 1:07:12

Like so many, if so many, things that can happen, like, if so many things like there are no paid vacation days on, you know, running a business, there are no Days off for a death. Like I remember, like my grandma remember, like I had a job going on there was a party center and my grandfather just died. This man, I mean, like a lot of grandkids are the great grandkids children. Like he gave a fuck about everybody to the point where he would buy properties that family comes, stay in out, rent pay, no, rent pay. You know, whatever you know, it's life such as life With those of his words, like his life like that, like like, at the end of the day, anything that you do but you punch a clock, or punch a clock for yourself, it's life is like it's the most straight line that there is. Like period, it's life is either going to go left or right. You know, I'll tell you right now. Like I remember talking to Counselor at their business.

Speaker 2: 1:08:34

I came over there, was like and I was younger, like we did that they were trying to figure out the, the ABD thing and it was just like, yeah, myself, like he just seems like he would be a lot more better. Just like running his own, like doing his own thing, like doing his own business, like just focus on. And the thing is that, like most like growing up, most of my friends will test. It is like I've always worked my dad is still in us like we just had to work. So like I've always had a job to grab, shovel, shovel snow, being around a black on Cedar and Cedar and Warrensville at Mark's. You know how people with groceries and stuff like I just always worked ahead and knack for money it's the perfect gift. Like you know how to make money.

Speaker 1: 1:09:17

Yeah, yeah, I said that too. But KJ KJ, my oldest son, he's inquiring about business. He first off people Don't tell your kids much about you because they can Google. All right, kj, google does looking up our websites, looking up how much money we made like he's looking up all this stuff. That's online.

Speaker 2: 1:09:43

I'm like, you don't need no fucking phone man.

Speaker 1: 1:09:46

Look up, if the earth flat. He's asking, like how to make money and I teach him and I, but I tell him just from my experience of Amen, you don't get no money yet you, you work for free. Okay, you work for free, man. So entrepreneurs, hustlers, anybody that's a light that's looking to gain and put themselves in that position where they are leading, they have a team. At the beginning, you will potentially work alone. You will not have much. You will not make much. Whatever you potentially will make, it goes right back until either the cost of your own living, which in some place will have to be cut if you, if you, it was to have to potentially be cut, if whatever your side hustles are, if they're bringing in, if they're not bringing in enough, you're going to have to cut some hour or some here. Or they bring in enough and you need more, you're going to have to cut some hour somewhere, like the feed one of them. So can't sleep with two masters, not at all, you cannot. So At least you know, you, a slave.

Speaker 2: 1:11:04

And if you, if you own anything, are you?

Speaker 1: 1:11:05

even a slave. Hey, for real, for real.

Speaker 2: 1:11:11

Asus at the dust. I forever be a field nigga. Salvation, hey, forever be a for real. For real I will, regardless of not just like we're live straight line Still nigga, it don't matter, don't matter, it don't matter if you roll a dice in yourself or just say go ahead and go, punch this like we're quick. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the outcome, because I think today it just matters. What matters is how much you care. How much do you care? So I believe that man.

Speaker 1: 1:11:38

So I'll say this, man, for anybody that you hear say fuck a job, don't, don't do business with them, okay, if you hear them say fuck a job, don't do business with them. If you have people, if their job is to hire or me as an entrepreneur, you as an entrepreneur you hear us saying fuck a job, get money, you broke bitch, and our life looks easy and their life looks hard. How well are you leading? What demonstrations are you giving with examples are you setting? If you are, if you're speaking of a life of ease and then the people around you are hungry, there only is loyal to you as often as the check clears, okay. And if they do care, if you have convinced them and you have put into their mind that you have therapeutic, we care, we care about your living. No, I'm just talking simple. Hey, I've been indoctrinated into people's mind that their leader that walks amongst them, who takes care of people's lives, those mind that their leader that walks amongst them, who takes care of things for them, actually cared about them before they got here.

Speaker 1: 1:12:57

We had sometimes had to break through that negative barrier of they probably were a decent or great employee somewhere else, but we're treated right, had poor management, poor leadership. Most people don't leave the company because they don't like the owner. Most of the time they lead the company because they don't get along with the manager. So keep in mind just one step up. It becomes disruption between inside of the machine. Every part needs to know it's important and it and it works from the ground up. When I go in and I speak to our talent, that comes in and I embrace them and I'm very transparent with them and I'm a person still. I'm not walking around there with a stick in my ass. I'm joking. I'm still a human being and I try to desensitize them with like hey, man, don't look at me as this great awe, even though I am. Please, I walk amongst you. Don't hold me in some hierarchy, like don't.

Speaker 2: 1:14:04

Even for like personal, like self improvement wise. I'll be honest, like I like I worked at a lot of jobs and like the machine job that I had, like that's probably like the job that I probably would mean I probably ran into like the most racist stuff, like stuff that like sick my stomach even to this day and I'm just saying just like I don't fucking mind dealing with this, I could be painting some walls right now. I can be rolling out some. I forgot I was just rolling out some walls.

Speaker 2: 1:14:36

But at the same time, the mind said instead of being so hooked on, instead of being so hooked on like oh man like this, this, this happened.

Speaker 2: 1:14:45

All I can honestly tell you is that something happened. I'm so far along with like what I'm doing right now. All I can just tell you is I just ran into some racist shit back when I was at the machine shop. Like it doesn't even bother me, not, because guess what? I'm pretty sure like my business has made like way more easy, way more money than he has made in one year, and I guarantee that and I guarantee that and I just flex real quick. I just say that real quick, like for sure, but but. But. But for the most part is like it isn't not because I'm looking at like I want to challenge the world. No, I want the world to know that it's actually possible, is possible Like you could own your own lay the mill, your own garage and actually have contracts with different companies and just run it and then move from your garage and then move to another facility when you start making the money to do anything and everything and everything. So I've got to start somewhere, like you have to.

Speaker 2: 1:15:44

And that's the important part is that you, at least you start and, and to be told, I'm keeping reform up to my book. It starts with, like, developing the name, the idea. It all starts with the idea. You have an idea in your head. I like doing this, I like building this, I'm like this. Over time, bought this machine for this.

Speaker 2: 1:16:10

I could spend as many invest in this. All I got to do is just give a couple of more extra hours outside of my regular day just to be able to commit this, to do this just a little bit more. But the thing is is that once you start building on that just a little bit more, then you start seeing a bit more. But then, like you said, but then, like you said, eventually you get to a point where, like between family, regular work, and then what people and there were people considered to be your hobby, you make him rare with your hobby. Yeah, now it's time to cut something. Now it's time to trim the fat. Where's the fat at?

Speaker 1: 1:16:53

Yeah, yeah, gotta go down the part time no no fuck that.

Speaker 2: 1:16:57

I so going back, so go my room. It's like while up there in lyria Talking my guy, we just like Make the move. I'm like we, starting the night, my job called. My job called literally like maybe like three, four. It probably maybe called that bottle lunch time, so maybe about 645. It was like um or so, so uh, you know, like I said, I blew my vacation days right Because I was already painting and just being like I had full, like Think I had While I was looking full time and doing it, like while looking full time I had I had full houses to paint, like you know, and I'm bringing guys in and I'm I'm doing, I'm painting this that I'm bouncing off at the I'm bouncing. So while I'm being an employee, I'm being a boss at the very same time.

Speaker 1: 1:17:44

And you, and it never stops being that it got to the point.

Speaker 2: 1:17:48

It got to the point where, like I go to, I like I was going to work On friday and I was sitting back. I already had the machine set up. I just sit back and I was like, oh, I gotta pay from this apartment.

Speaker 1: 1:18:03

Yes, they from here too. Yeah, addicting that's that is where the addiction Comes in, for most people at least, for at least for me, the addiction came into play Once, like I said, transactions clear Once you make. I remember making my first dollar doing this, doing business. So, from sewer to entrepreneur segment, once we apply to the state of Ohio to become a contractor Due to the board of developmental disabilities and the Department of aging, once we got our certification and our license that come to do so, the real work started. Okay, the real work began.

Speaker 1: 1:18:59

The paperwork is the easy part of getting the LLC. Normally that's $100. You can do it online and get it in a few days. Excuse me, you can go to the state of Ohio, mean a sosohiobusinessgov I believe sosbusinessgov or even google how to start a business in Ohio and it'll bring you up to the secretary of state website, follow the tabs and they help you go to how to classify your business. But that's the easy part Going to the bank, taking your state certification and your tax ID and you can get your tax ID Instantly. Once you get your certification, it can print it off right then in that day.

Speaker 2: 1:19:44

I just wrote this shit, I swear, yeah, I swear, yeah, I swear. I got like before Like five hours ago. I just want to sit my phone, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:19:50

This is bimboson curriculum. Okay, this is the bimboson academy curriculum, but you can get that instantly. Then you can go to the bank the same day Well, both of these documents were possibly a hundred dollars and be able to open up a business bank account. Now you're looking, viewed and recognized as a business, legitimately on paper. So I will debunk shit tonight when you hear people talking about they waiting around all this long ass time for their LLCs. Man, they bush and you don't know what the fuck they doing. They're stacking and just saying, if you like is like, it's something that to glorify and it's not, it's the government doesn't fear any business that ain't making no money. Okay, if you ain't making no money and pushing it through there, you ain't recognized. You only holding up this paper For the likes, for the gram. Shout out to the gram, shout out to my gram.

Speaker 1: 1:20:48

So once you do that, the real work starts. How do you bring your business business? You had to tap into marketing and advertisement. You gotta beat the street, talk to people, put yourself out there, sell yourself. You got to be able to make relationships and communicate with people. You got to push yourself in a place that you've never been because you ain't never been here. This is new, so you gon fail. A lot of times, people just like to sound like they got it going on. Those who really do move like that, you rarely ever see them, you rarely ever hear them, and when they are making moves, you normally paying them in some kind of way. You normally paying them in some kind of way. Some of y'all be paying me, right? No, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:21:34

Some of you pass me customers and don't even know I take care of your family Living in my place.

Speaker 1: 1:21:42

But that's business man, that's power, that's that's that's.

Speaker 2: 1:21:46

That's that, that's persistence, that's persistence along with being consistent. Oh yeah, that's the same thing, that's like. That's like that's what it is. It's like, like you said, like Even going past, like the eion part, like even gonna pass all of it used to like, like I said, everybody has something in them. You got to. You hear it everywhere songs, speeches. You got to speak it into the you. You have to like, you have to look at yourself and say, look, just like you better. Like, jump off the cliff. Like a lot of people go on vacation. Jump up clip. Like if you can jump off a cliff, you can start a business.

Speaker 1: 1:22:25

Yeah, yeah, you're taking a lot of fucking risk.

Speaker 2: 1:22:30

A lot already, but if you can sit here and say who, okay, I can do this, I'm gonna figure this out some way, somehow. Like, like, I'm gonna do it, like I can't, like I guarantee you, like it's been, like it's been years, like I've been out of my life. I'm like, like, like each, like each and every single year, I'm doing better and better. I'm like Just just just chill.

Speaker 1: 1:22:55

Let me ask you this real quick, because I I said this to my uh, to my wife, vanessa. Shout out, vanessa, that's my baby. I love you baby. Thank you for listening to me the other day too. I needed that. Um, do you feel that your Most challenging year that you've had in business was your most productive year?

Speaker 2: 1:23:17

Yeah, because I was the, because I was here where, and that's the thing is that, like the business, like if I'm Because another musical quote, nick mill, said it the best. He said I'm not in competition with my homie, I'm really in competition with the roley. My opposition wouldn't be my opposition if they really would have known me. Um, believe it or not, like the biggest part, like like the, the biggest issue, like in this entire world, to me it's fucking me, it's yourself. I don't give a fucking. I mean, I mean, I mean I do. But like the biggest problem to me is me Is figuring out.

Speaker 2: 1:24:00

Okay, nigga, like you was just here, just like Just yesterday, like don't go back there. How do you move past right there and go forward? Ah, there you go. You got to break yourself down again. Yeah, you got to break yourself down again. I gotta break myself down again. Yeah, you got to break yourself down again. Okay, now find your motivation again. Speak it back into the universe. Nipsey hustles said. Nipsey hustles said um, what would you say? Find your purpose. Are you wasting air? That's really good. I like that, like it's almost to the point, like if you're actually, like if you're really, if you're gonna die working for somebody who you really die for.

Speaker 2: 1:24:42

This guy right here Are you gonna die or are you gonna die working for yourself and for your family? I'll say setting them up.

Speaker 1: 1:24:48

Yeah, I'll say this because I uh we sit on the side of giving opportunities too. Yeah, I would love for somebody to trust to die next to me in my leadership. I would, I would love that and I have that. I feel like I have that. I have people who are Ancestored in to us with business Freedom speakers. I want you to know like I've had to have these outer body experience fortune fifth dimensions looking at myself. I'm a third eye view of like I'm really living inside of a dream that I want. That once was an idea and nobody would believe me. Nobody would believe me. I was crazy, I was this, and then now it's like I always believed in you.

Speaker 2: 1:25:25

Now you look, you look like.

Speaker 1: 1:25:30

How do you I said it before how did you always believe in me? Or how did you believe in me when I didn't always? It's possible that this person could have been like Like an unconditional type of love, like your mama you know, I'm saying your family, shit like that like that's my baby, even though in solid it may be like you, try he doing. But having to Believe in yourself and I, I get emotional every time I say it because I believe in power, I believe in spells, I believe in you go to work, me, go to church, and you pray to Jesus. That's conjuring up an energy. You pray to Allah, buddha. That's conjuring up an energy calling on somebody else's name. But if I call on my own name and I put a spell of belief On my own self, I've got a. I got a spell of belief on my own self. That's so fucking powerful.

Speaker 1: 1:26:21

No man can break it that I am only where I am by God's grace. And this in this being, that, the, the inside of me, not the, not the external, that you see, because this can be altered, this can be altered. But what's coming out of me, the energy that comes out of me, the, the, the, the being that comes out of me. This person dies and reborn all the time, almost every every time. I need to break myself Purposely. Hear me, you hear me. So this is for people who want to be an entrepreneur. This is for people who are sitting in that family man, business man, entrepreneur around anybody who identify with this. You will have to hit your own reset button.

Speaker 2: 1:27:04

Yeah they turn on right bottom.

Speaker 1: 1:27:07

Yeah, I call mine reset button as soon as I'm out of my shit, as soon as I'm out of whack. I gotta have a conversation of realignment with myself, like all right, get your shit right. You been furthering up your God or forgiving guy, which you got a track record in there. Get your shit right, he ain't gonna keep me don't forget.

Speaker 1: 1:27:27

Bit dead, nigga shit right, but I gotta address me. Before I feel comfortable sitting on somebody else's couch confessing some shit to them, I need to confess it to myself first. My own dialogue, my own ears need to digest what I'm saying to me. I need to put a spell on myself. I need to be able to have accountability with myself. I need to have, I need to practice that with myself before I can even tell anybody else to hold accountability. I need to demonstrate a.

Speaker 1: 1:27:52

I'm sorry, and that wasn't cool. A player fucked up. I don't even want to shove shit on you of like this is your fault, but let me demonstrate how much of a g I am and how powerful I am and and how much of a fighter I am and all fights aren't physical, but like a. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have called you on my, my fat boy head as stinky kuchies. Bitch would have fucked up pH balance. I didn't really mean that, though it was true, but I'm sorry because I hurt your feelings and that wasn't the intent. I wanted to let you know I was mad at you and I have to do that to do it. I'm sorry. Can we be friends? But that's the demonstration of a power of life. Most people can't apologize. It's not a strength they have. Some people don't have the accountability strength. Some people don't have mercy, maybe don't have grace, so I'll give you that, that I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 2: 1:28:48

That's the word, that's the way I've been. I've been teaching, I've been trying to teach my kids grace Show. Gotta have grace Show, a little bit of grace. And give yourself some grace, understand, understand what somebody else is going through. You know, take a step back, breathe. I grace your damn cell.

Speaker 1: 1:29:09

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:29:10

Yeah, understand what somebody else is going through, because, ultimately, like, even like with business, like I said With business, business either gonna make you a break, that's it and that and that and like, that's why I like it, like it's the greatest. So yeah, I'm a competitor.

Speaker 1: 1:29:29

It's like it's it's the.

Speaker 2: 1:29:33

It's one of the greatest challenges that like I'm actually like doing right now because like I'm really testing my meta right now, like I'm really like, like I'm really seeing here, like Look, man Lord, like fuck to me, victor, no, this is like I got the fucking money. Like, but like I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing it. Money, money, money, money. I have to keep proving myself and telling myself like, all right, you can do it, but at the same time like look at that money, like yeah, you doing a lot of my badness.

Speaker 2: 1:30:01

Let me work on my. Let me go ahead working my credit. Yeah, let me go ahead and actually just start like really like give me the fuck about what, like where my money is going, yeah, and how. I actually like really want to be like Living for real, because I live in situations like Pretty fucking expensive very much so, man, very, very much so.

Speaker 1: 1:30:20

So, even with the the bimbo us that information we give to our people in there. We give them the information of Uh, how to get their credit, and just just getting I started giving this information. I'm gonna start here. I started giving this information because when people just being transparent, learning to be transparent, taking away the negative narrative of employee versus employer and giving this information, you feel like I'm putting the team up on game and I ain't the only one in here just winning. I'm giving leverage um.

Speaker 2: 1:30:52

But that's, that's a whole another. That that's a whole another level. Understanding too.

Speaker 1: 1:30:56

It's being able to actually like take yourself from like a full, like like a full-time employee and being that type of person who was like, oh, we fucked this job, we're like uh, to actually understanding, like both sides of it, how important the management employee thing is, I would love to go into politics and sit on a sitting old seat somewhere and be able to negotiate Terms and laws and policies for people, because I get the chance to understand it from the ground up, exactly get to understand what the people need. I'm for the people, I love the people, I am empowered by the people. Fred Hampton type shit like make a. I love the people. Is this why my, my bro holds, who ain't here today? He's sick y'all. So freedom speakers, send uh spirit fingers and positive ginger ale over to uh my co-host house house, uh, the pow house. He got a lot of kids too, so they ain't getting no sleep. I love you, bro. And then my sister's over there too.

Speaker 1: 1:31:50

Uh, take care of that man tonight, man, he's a whole lot better director with us when, uh, when he's released. So, sis, hook him up uh, render him his dude. He, he's been managing and directing the fuck out of everything. Man and that man and most everyone to give him his flowers. That man is a man with 100%, 100 grand. That's my nigga, that's my nigga, nigga, nigga. And I love going into battle every day with him. So me and him uh had to have a conversation as kings and at a time man.

Speaker 1: 1:32:28

I wasn't as great to that man as I needed to be in business as a leader, because I wasn't there myself. I wasn't even treating myself well. I didn't know how to place a value on me. So how could I show value if I can show? I didn't have a discipline on what I ate, who I talked to, what I put in my body, just in. I didn't. I didn't have any kind of discipline. That was really some king disease type shit that almost took me out. I was extremely fucking sick, not just physically but mentally. So when I had to do a hard recalibration, a hard reset, a factory reset, the old me had to die spiritually. The old me had to die.

Speaker 1: 1:33:08

And who you see in front of you now, what's coming out of me now, is not the same person, a complete change of my attitude, my mental, my thinking. The old me is in another universe, dead or in jail, and he ain't doing well. He's not doing well. Okay, this person here is like. I have the opportunity to do it right again. I got an opportunity to not fuck up a gift that God has been able to grant me with.

Speaker 1: 1:33:40

I had to just have an understanding and ability to not Be my own worst enemy, having any and everything in my disposal. I'm having money, I'm having women, I'm having opportunities. I lost my, I gained the world and lost myself, which which brings a depression to me of money, of like I have more than what I need to take care of things. That's what I have is the entrepreneur, but it becomes. I'm so sensitive to who around me because I had to figure out who really was around me and what they were for, where they purposeful for me can. Is this person really into me because of me, not because of how how much I can save them, how much that I can change their lives, how much a I can change your area code. Or 60 dollars for your phone. Be you willing to give yourself all up. I just need 60 dollars. Whatever, what can I do for you? I'm like me and my niggas smoke up and drink up. That's a breakfast. So 60 dollars, make or break you, that ain't even nothing I want for me.

Speaker 2: 1:34:50

For me, it's like Just trust me, trust me, trust, no, no, no. Like for me, like that's like like regardless and not like what I've had to learn. Like the businesses Regardless. Not like like who wants to interact with you business wise, or who does what the things go right with things go wrong, regardless, and not what most people don't really understand. It's like really grasp up. Is that nigga?

Speaker 2: 1:35:14

You still gotta hold together you still gotta not be like Okay, this customer wants to see me. What's the problem now? No, no, you're trying to like, okay, but then you need the money. What people don't understand is that nigga really has to keep it together. Together between no, no, like, between like, like you said, depression, the Losing yourself and just filling yourself a bit too much, that everything like they have to keep it together. So the only way to keep it together is to actually figure out how to actually do better, how to do better, yeah, yeah, but and you actually have to actually care, because you still have to. You still have to, like you said, you still have to actually remind yourself Of actually why it is you're actually doing this. But then the people who are actually watching you believe it or not, leave her or not the biggest people who you actually have to prove to, are the ones who actually put the greatest trust in you, and that's the ones who live in your household.

Speaker 1: 1:36:25

Yeah, you been at work all day I was work. Yeah, but if you, if you come, if you've been at work every day, all day, and then they come home and things not working, it's like what are you doing? How about you were working?

Speaker 2: 1:36:45

If the bread ain't coming in, then the nigga ain't working. It ain't working.

Speaker 1: 1:36:49

So I don't matter, it don't matter what the hours is, that if it ain't, if they add enough if it ain't add enough.

Speaker 2: 1:36:55

So you know, I'm saying like another thing is like it's a, it's a whole, another level of accountability, especially when you got, you got your partner looking at you, your wife looking at you, whoever it is, whatever. You got kids got you, you got pay bills, you got to do whoo, whoo, you got to produce. But the same, but the same time, like at the same time, at the same time, at the same time. You have to try to refrain from wanting to be motherfucking meaty doker, a meaty yoker as person, geez, that's. I mean to be talking while like I ain't gonna hold you, like it's been. It has been times where, like business and work Bit slow, and I swear to you, man, like I really felt, like like I was putting applications, like like I ain't gonna hold you, like I like things were slow, like, and I did reapply back to like my old job, but of course because I, you know, or through vacation days, and you know you gave them a fuck, you, they felt but see, but see. But the one but see was that too, but, but, but the but.

Speaker 2: 1:38:01

The one thing I also had to realize was that I also had somebody looking out for me too. Like the company I was at, like this was like the first black supervisor there, so he was looking out for me and anybody else a color man he was looking out, but as soon as he started getting shit that he was like, like you said, he was bounce who left. But then it was like who? Oh man, this was. This was the white man really looked like a front.

Speaker 2: 1:38:31

It was like that they really started coming. They really started coming. And it got to the point where it was like they started coming, started coming, like I swear to you, dude, swear, they was coming. And then even like, like it got to the point where, like I was being on time and then it was to the point where, like now I was working too much over time or it was, uh, you know, let's go ahead and move you another machine. Or it got to the point where, like they wanted to redesign the machine shop and bring new machines in there and like my machine was down for a long time so I wasn't working, I was painting. Though.

Speaker 1: 1:39:08

I was painting, I was painting, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:39:11

But I was by that, by that time, like I was actually painting like under my business name and I was still working full time. I didn't actually quit my job to maybe like 10 months afterwards excuse the face, my big geek Good bottle.

Speaker 2: 1:39:29

About 10 minutes, about about 10 months, and I'm just like I gotta do something different. I'm like, because I already know like they don't eat me, I'm, I ain't gonna hold you. Like I told you like, even though I actually gave a shit about the job, the politics didn't give a shit about me.

Speaker 1: 1:39:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They want the mood. The company didn't care about the people in there, nothing, they didn't care about nothing. Or not, everybody not that they didn't care about the people. They probably, they probably had to select few, but they didn't care about everybody unanimously having at least a base for how everybody. I ain't gonna hold you man Doin them fucking things given to christmas dinners.

Speaker 2: 1:40:05

I wanted to be like I'm eating this shit man, fuck this shit. Like it like because like a lot, like, a lot of like, a lot of like for me. For me, like I said, like Drake said on uh, deeper pockets, he was like there's something in me, it's taking over it. I gotta break it down, bust it open and then start rolling. And somebody else are taking notice.

Speaker 2: 1:40:26

I knew, like I started getting to a point where, like I was fed the fuck up and like I'm saying I'm like fucking 25, 25, 26, 27 maybe you know I'm ear-tain this shit. I'm like I'm like a fucking 50 year old man like, hey, joe, like I feel that shit. He's fucking chair this hard as hell. Hell with this place. You know this fucking turkey, like, but the the bullshit. Like a Tencent raise, though I'm working all this overtime. But if I had, I actually had to, if I actually had to sit here and figure out with a little overtime I needed, but then with the max, was that's fucking retarded, that's sad, that's no, but like that's sad to the point where, like you actually have to actually like put a fucking ceiling on yourself, but it's not even your ceiling. They're telling you that you're only worth 17, and then, oh yeah, they bouncing and you move to a level four machine. So now you're worth 20 something dollars an hour man.

Speaker 1: 1:41:28

For some people that works, I can't, but others well, no no, no, I'm just saying it don't if others it don't.

Speaker 1: 1:41:37

So I say it is man for For me, learning myself like and learning people, learning the team, still Becoming like a master of human nature. Some people don't want that responsibility. People don't want to grow. They want the protection and safety of the job. They want to be able to a Make, make the money and put that on themselves. And you know that some people want that because they possibly haven't been exposed to more. Not that that isn't a negative, not that. Not that that's Not that that's a negative, but it is of like. True, you do need to grow and expand if you care of information, knowledge you don't have to possibly pursue, but like somebody should show you your value. You know I'm saying so.

Speaker 2: 1:42:28

But that's why. But that's why this right here is like this right here is like it's necessary Because, like my mind's like I'm not knocking anybody like who works If it works, it works To be told like I got so much shit in my mind's mission trying to do, but for the most part, if you actually feel you actually know for a fact that like you're grinding a bit too hard and it, and you feel like it is possible to like grind a bit harder, but you know, actually take like the second hustle seriously or just whatever it takes or whatever whatever to do it. Pretty much a do whatever it. If you feel like you could, if you feel like it didn't just do it, right, that's it. Like that's how I'm just straightening out right.

Speaker 1: 1:43:15

So I say this man, when it comes to a, as I've learned, man, as I learned you, you not meant to be capped at a certain thing. You want to control an R, controlling your own shit. So you are demonstrating to myself and to other people who are involved in the view with you of the, the grind and the hustle. Gonna come with some bumps and bruises, gonna come with some lumps, but like, keep in mind, I'm winning and it's still a fight. Still, a fight is what it's always gonna be. You know, I'm saying so, me learning. Just, even with the team of some people who I could have great plans for them, I could say, hey, I want to be able to put this person in this place where it becomes one more money, but they don't want them more responsibility or the overall Responsibility that comes with it. So what's just kind of having the flexibility with businesses? We'll give more money but we will add in just a lower level of responsibility. Let them know how important they will be in any position, enough what, what we need for them to do, what you know, just really given the curriculum, and let them know how valuable they are and how valuable we value them and them taking this on helps out the entire team, not us, not just singularly myself or you know. You know nothing. That is you helping out. Everybody else coming in doing this or doing is taking this on. That makes it a lot easier. And expressing to him like man, at the end of the year you doing this, this saves the company X amount of dollars so you can be able to get Raised.

Speaker 1: 1:44:52

And I'm not a I'm not a conventional raise giver of all. You been here a year. You get this and get that. No, I'm a performance and clutch type of raised Entrepreneur. Hey, this person's been coming in clutch, they've been picking up this. They've been, you know, they've been making themselves a part of the team by doing more, not just what they've contracted to do. We're just doing more. How more cannot be of service? And that allows us to be able to say how much more can we do for you, right, how much more can we take care of you or you coming in, freeing up our hours and time, that we don't have to do these roles anymore? We trained you properly, giving you the Curriculum you need to pull from you. Have us, you have your leaders around you that are giving you examples and your ongoing training.

Speaker 1: 1:45:45

It's a continuous thing. It's not just the. You went through orientation and that's it. But when this person is showing efforts and showing more, I Look at that and see it on the level of numbers. When I'm doing payroll and I'm doing books and I'm doing this, I'm like this person has really been okay. So when I'll see them coming in clutch Some may get that, may just see it on a paycheck.

Speaker 1: 1:46:07

They get a dollar, two dollar raise, a continuous and it a little memo note keep up the good work. Some may get you know, I might just come in and walk around like you got a raise, but it's one of those of like, in the grand scheme of things, I get to see every. I get to see the entire board, everything, as I, as I gracefully say, I Started all this motherfucking shit. Okay, I started it all. I know what each position needs, I know how to develop it, I know how to critique it, I know how to grow it. That's my shit. I did, but I share. I share responsibility. I don't want it all to fall on me, because then that's just fucking selfish, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 1:46:56

I would love to be able to share the responsibility I have to.

Speaker 2: 1:47:01

But I, but I but I. That's the thing, though, is it's like, once you start like getting with business and you start going, you going, the thing is like the bumps that you fall on you're not falling back on them will spend, said, you fall forward, you fall forward everything that you're doing and you're not falling back. You just move for you. But even as you move forward like you want to, you want to tell people how to, you want to try and coach them along and try how to move for it like you know. It bring like it kind of bring like a whole, not level, like responsibility. It's like I got to. I got to help somebody.

Speaker 1: 1:47:38

Yeah, and I feel selfish. We're not if I harbor this information or I'm only at a place of comfort, material wise, or I don't have certain Worries, like I got other set to worry, but I'm not per se burdened by what I would consider expenses, like I gotta spend money. So no matter where I'm spending money's, like I gotta spend it because if I don't I gotta eventually give a portion of it back to the government. So every dollar dollar earn is gonna be a dollar spent somewhere. Ain't no point even thinking about it. I can advance, I can get my. So I'll tell you this In business we're structured as an escort.

Speaker 1: 1:48:21

There's a escort business and that came along because of a financial tax break that the, that is me. These are rules of the government layout. There's nothing that they're playing favorite to me. But there's a side of business that I didn't know until I obtained, you know, an accountant to help me manage all of these things, because I don't know like I had to obtain that information. But him explaining to us of the money that we were making and going into this particular quarter, seeing our projections, he was like, amen, it might be In your best interest was to open you up a escort so that you make yourself an employee of the company and you pay Payroll tax for yourself, along with the team, and you make you take a hefty salary which saves you on the back end of not having to be double dipped into medicare, medicare taxes of that nature, free gas, free gas. Yeah, so me being able to, you know, take that information.

Speaker 1: 1:49:12

No one give myself a salary, but learning business. And like I can't even get my salary but learning business. And like I got addicted to things of that nature. Uh, but when I, when I learned, like, okay, this is how much money I got, I make is how much money I spend, these are what my expenses are, these are what my taxes are, this is the kind, this is the cost of doing business, certain things just become an expense, just becomes an expense. I got to pay the mortgage in here, I got to pay the rent there. I got to pay for the lights and gas at three, four, five different locations. You learn how to reason. Yeah, you, it comes with. You learn how to reason, you learn how to negotiate, you learn to become political, diplomatic, even with yourself.

Speaker 2: 1:49:56

Yeah, I'll be like Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:49:58

I'm okay with this. I'm gonna let this go.

Speaker 2: 1:50:00

Yeah, yeah, I'm okay, or, or, or, or two. We saw that like a job, like, even for me, even for me just telling myself, like every eight said, sometimes I gotta make, I gotta make little bands by my lonely like. Sometimes I gotta remember, like, like, uh, when I first, when I had first started my business, um and Like, please like. If you're interested in being like an entrepreneur, don't be afraid to go on like facebook and find groups of you know different business owners, like different businesses, and ask questions and get advice because, honestly, that could be those like those little bit of comments, those words can be the major difference between, like you actually taking a step forward or taking a step back, between doing it. It's a little bit about being vulnerable, um, but at the same time, um, you know, you gotta.

Speaker 1: 1:50:53

Yeah, you, you, you gotta want it, man, you gotta, you gotta want it, you gotta put your your best foot forward, man, and I say even for myself now, learning business, learning, uh, some of these skills that I learned and business are like how to stand up for myself, yeah, exactly how to be able to say what it is that I want and I need, and to be able to discipline myself to say I don't want that, I don't, don't, don't, don't do that to me and I can do better. Yeah, I could do better, I am better. You know I'm saying I don't deserve this. This is a certain value that I have beyond the uh, the tangible or the Uh, the material things of yeah, I could buy you a Camry, yeah, I'm gonna pay, you pay your rent, or like, check that. You think like it's, like you don't, you can't be responsible enough for yourself. One of the last. Somebody else gotta come in and save you for being irresponsible, or you ain't got to discipline on yourself as a person. So how the fuck am I as a man or a husband gonna come in to discipline you, or as a boss, gonna come in to discipline you, or just a citizen in this, in a city of like discipline, somebody that's trying to do something to me or not. Having that, that net you know I'm saying so it it turns into like man, you have to really walk, walk the walk. You gotta be. It can't be no faking in there because you would it a crack. You have to be yourself, you have to be genuine, you have to be authentic, you have to be whatever it is. You can't fake it. So me, me, learning like and knowing like man.

Speaker 1: 1:52:29

I started losing a lot in business at a certain time when I was in that king's disease, when I was just, I had whatever it is that I want and I didn't know a limit. I couldn't discipline myself. Having things at my disposal, just having it wherever and whenever I wanted, got me fat as fuck, got me sad as fuck. Like I gained the world but I lost myself, a legitimate me, lost myself. I had materials, I had those things, but None of that should value like family to me. None of that should value human interaction, human nature, and it mean anything if I wasn't able to spend time with my children, spend time with my family, my lady. It didn't mean much If I, if I, lost them in any kind of way. A car wouldn't heal that, a new house wouldn't fix that. More ice on my wrist wouldn't, wouldn't, wouldn't heal that pain.

Speaker 1: 1:53:21

You know, I'm saying I would need love and comfort from a healing energy type of person, knowing that is an energy that I have and and it can be drained, it can be taken advantage of, because that's the selflessness. That's the selflessness, but a very healthy blend of. I exercise saying no, a lot, a Lot from my own self-preservation. I have to say no, I got caught up too much saying yes and they couldn't live up to something that I agreed to. In happiness, putting myself, putting this person before me, knowing that a whatever I'm offering them is probably what I need for myself too.

Speaker 2: 1:54:05

Because you're just so selfless. You're selfless, you, just you, just you, just you have, you have so much in you. You literally could just give it away.

Speaker 1: 1:54:15

I got more than what I need. In a lot of things I got more than what I need and should be so like my whole thing.

Speaker 2: 1:54:21

I enjoy like, I enjoy my, like I enjoy my. I enjoy the fact that I'm not. My time is not controlled, besides by what? Besides, I guess, whatever it is that's determined, that that's making, that's motivated me like I Go for the gut. Like, gotta go for the guts. You gotta always want to constantly want to improve. You gotta always, constantly want to look at your numbers and see, okay. Well, for me it was like, yeah, okay, there are a couple aspects of like painting. I'm like they can just fucking spend the money by the fucking machine learn just fucking learn.

Speaker 2: 1:55:01

Just Stop stop being so comfortable with spending the money. Man, I actually be comfortable with just being like, but at the same time, it's like, depending on, like, the people who, like I, might have brought on, like it might have Gonna spray, it's cool, I'm paying, bro, like I'm, I'm comfortable with that, I'm hanging. But then he got to a point where, like now, I'm not comfortable, but then also got to a point where, like now, it's like whenever, like we do collaborate or do, is it? I want to make sure I bring my shit to the table, mm-hmm, especially, put it back to like a little pain. So it's like you definitely have to, you have to want to improve, and only way to improve you gotta believe in reinvesting yourself, breaking it back down, breaking the formula back down, figuring out what you need to add into the formula to try and get this to go and and not be afraid, actually just Go out alone. Oh yeah, oh yeah, that one.

Speaker 1: 1:56:02

We go, go, go go. I mean, I mean, uh, man, like we gonna tap on this full second freedom speakers.

Speaker 2: 1:56:08

I just I just want to say this it almost seems like we're running a business that, like each and every some bad thing that happens, like it kind of feel like your brain as an entrepreneur like bills, like a cocoon, like Slowly but surely it's like you keep going.

Speaker 2: 1:56:21

You're like it, just it grows. And it grows Because it's like it's for your own protection. It's like you're going what you're doing right now, you're going after. You're literally like just, you're literally waking up every single morning and you're paid like the tracks ain't down, I'm just okay, this one got go left. This one gotta go go right. This one gotta go go left. Okay, this one kind of fucked up, I got it. Stop. Put a pause. Star jet readjust. It's like every single day when you wake up, it's like it's like it's a constant fight. I enjoy it. It's fucking exhausting sometimes. I enjoy it, but it's fucking exhausting sometimes. Sometimes it's hard to try and like Keep it together. Sometimes you try and think about like some, some, some things just become a bit too much. But then that's why, at the same time, like you still have to remember like I started this journey. I Can't sit here and just stop. I can't sit here and just stop.

Speaker 1: 1:57:24

I got people to be in too.

Speaker 2: 1:57:25

Too far, too far too far in Been ten toes down, like, let me go ahead, let me go ahead and readjust, recalibrate with their problems back on, get the music back for one. Let me go ahead and listen to my music. Let me go ahead and listen to the baby. No tears, I ain't got no tears. You know like I ain't got the time, I ain't got no time to cry. I don't have no like choke up a little bit, but I don't have time to but but I don't. I don't necessarily there's no time to be so held up, I can't.

Speaker 2: 1:57:53

It's. It's just, nicky, you either want to see what's gonna happen next, like try to like see what happened next and you know, or you just gonna be like laid. You're gonna be looking like Mike Tyson hit you in the face. You're gonna be like oh, I got this dude. Oh, yeah, it is this. Uh, you know who, who you can, if you ain't like. It's like when you wake up every single morning, it's like it doesn't matter what time you wake up, whatever time you're about time, you start to rank your business. If you watch Game of Thrones, you see the. You watch Game of Thrones, you see the, the shields and stuff, the Armors, the head plates, the chest plates. But they're also thinking like, yeah, you know, pass me that, you know this, that in the third, you know, let's go ahead and get everything. Everybody set up. You know who they got. They're on guard, they're on, they're on point every single day and some, some of the days, don't know nothing happened. They just some of the day. The day is walking around.

Speaker 1: 1:58:48

But for an entrepreneur, with the day, your enemy waiting for you to slip.

Speaker 2: 1:58:52

But for an entrepreneur, you're constantly thinking about your biggest enemy is not making money. Your biggest enemy for, like Besides yourself, beside yourself, the sidekick is not making money. The sidekick is not figuring out how to evolve your business, how to evolve your marketing.

Speaker 1: 1:59:09

Mm-hmm. So I'll say this man, you hit on a lot of different things, so One of them is freedom speakers for people out there. You cannot loan with entrepreneurship. Okay, you cannot loan with entrepreneurship. You can't be in the kitchen making all them plates on your own. You can't be out there shoveling that snow by yourself, cutting that grass, possibly even cutting the hair you need to make it. Sweep it up, clean up the clippers by by, sale your product with all of that man. So you cannot.

Speaker 1: 1:59:43

You needed a financial person, an accountant possibly, to be able to help you get, maximize your spending and let you know what um, laws and things that are out there for your industry. So you, you, you need that man, you need that. So. So one of some of the information I want to get the people out there tonight is for any entrepreneur in hustling.

Speaker 1: 2:00:05

I hope covet has taught us all something when it comes to business, okay, as a business that is, I'm thankful to still be open and operational with all the different things that we've done, but learning how to adjust into, adapt that you, you find some empathy and sympathy for your employer, or if you have become an employer yourself, because a lot of people have stepped into the realm of business, opening so many different doors for themselves and there are others and their children and showing that hey thing, you, you are learning to make a difference in changing yourself. So I say that to say Hopefully you gain some empathy and sympathy now, become stepping into that level of entrepreneurship that you get to see that, hey, you, you can't say fuck a job when, if you level it up in your business and you need to hire help, now Are you gonna hire the help or the person that says fuck a job? They got that mentality or they're constantly trying to rival on who is in charge and you, you picking at you for you giving them an opportunity and they're growing off of your pain. I so I ask you like, hey, you have to really care about people and I hope that you learn some empathy and some sympathy With people, giving them an opportunity, giving them a chance, giving them grace to hate.

Speaker 1: 2:01:30

Maybe they came from a failed school system, maybe they came from a failed employer previously, maybe they never been taught a certain value about themselves. So when people come and work with us and they become a part of the team, they come in as the talent with us. We recalibrate that whole human being and let them know how valuable they are. How many owners do that? How many owners?

Speaker 2: 2:01:55

give a fuck. I mean owners, show they playbook.

Speaker 1: 2:01:58

Yeah, like very so.

Speaker 2: 2:02:00

So so little, so little hints to the playbook. Give out a little bit of you know some leverage, bro.

Speaker 1: 2:02:05

I'm leveraging the game, so not just running up overtime.

Speaker 2: 2:02:08

So show you some shit because, like you said, being an entrepreneur you can't do it yourself. You, you're, you're, you're constantly trying to look for, like You're looking for one of two things For one you're looking for your exit plan. Your exit plan, you either be looking for, like you know, real estate, whatever, like whatever Either that, or you're looking at actually trying to build up a business. Now, the one thing that I've learned in business is that that the definition of actually having a real successful business is that if you can actually sit sit down and write out A manual for your business and hand a manual to somebody else and somebody can read that manual and learn how to actually Comprehend and run that business, then you've run a successful business.

Speaker 1: 2:02:48

And you've simplified it into an art form. You put it into an art form that someone can read this or watch this. So, speaking as an art, we discussing business now With our etiquette in our vocab in our 80, in our 80d and 80hd.

Speaker 2: 2:03:04

like I'm on the spectrum, I don't know what I got but me.

Speaker 1: 2:03:09

What's that other billionaire, most billionaire, is on the spectrum. I'm on my way.

Speaker 2: 2:03:14

I'm on my way, I'm gonna find something.

Speaker 1: 2:03:17

But I say that, man, just we, we show love in that leadership position and entrepreneur position. You have to care about people, you have to care about growth, you have to care about development. You almost have to be sacrificial and make yourself the example that it can be done. It can be proven. So we don't do this for show, we do this for love, we do this for the care of what we do. We do it with a hint of survival, we do it with a hint of teaching, like a.

Speaker 1: 2:03:49

I tell my son I wish I had a me in my household growing up, like you do that every day. He has somebody there that cares. That is. I'm handling parenting every day as a new thing because it's new to me every day. I ain't never done this shit before and I'm sometimes as immature as the goddamn kids Because I like to have fun. God, I mean, I've earned to have to laugh and do shit, bitch, so but I, I, I give myself that that grace man and I put.

Speaker 1: 2:04:26

I learned to love myself and I've learned to Puzzle, place a value on myself, and I learned to Radiate that and show that and give that to other people and let them know like, hey, you can have a value for you too, man. You can mandate somebody to treat you a certain fucking way, don't? You? Don't have to subject yourself to just the epitome of what somebody feel like they're gonna give you. You remember we just spoke about that at work that the boss felt like, hey man, they're gonna just give you whatever the fuck they want to give you. Your spouse can feel like they're gonna just give you whatever the fuck they want to give you. The world can feel like they're gonna just give you whatever the fuck they want to give you. You got to stand up and demand some shit or fucking take it All right, except in the realm of women could do. That's like they can press charges, that's like stuff Don't do.

Speaker 1: 2:05:11

Don't do that, but say something to that motherfucker, I speak up, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't do that. Say something, niggas. Say Something to squeak you will gets the oil. Do not harbor, do not suppress it. It, it, it, it. It will cause a war inside of yourself and eat you up and you putting a punishment on you that you don't deserve Because of how somebody else is treating you. So you fucking yourself over twice, you allowing them to treat you some goddamn way, and then you allowing yourself to allow yourself to be treated In the motherfucking way. Two wars inside of you, and this person is living fucking carefree.

Speaker 2: 2:05:50

You gotta say something, and for one, they put their pants on the same way you do, and for two, they're in you, allowing them to put a fucking ceiling over you. Fuck, that ain't too many years of my fucking life, hell, no, I'm not about the loud.

Speaker 1: 2:06:04

I'm not gonna let somebody dictate how great I can fucking be. I would never do that. I would never do that again. I muted myself at the time in my life because my, my life was more like I'm a deep, passionate, philosophical, intelligent, emotionally mature, emotionally immature, fucking adult. Okay, I crossed over immensely to a different place. That shit makes sense and I got. I know what I gotta do, I can, I me. Bitching the morning comes a part of the be bitching the morning about it is a part of my uh grieving with having to do it. It's a part of my coping of another day. All right, all right, let's get it. Man, let me, let me put this spell of happiness on myself. Let me put my good tunes on, let me smoke my potent bag of herbal essence that helps me connect, get, get, so be up so high, tickling Jesus feet.

Speaker 2: 2:07:02

Sometimes it's tickling Jesus feet, sometimes it requires silence.

Speaker 1: 2:07:05

I ain't gonna.

Speaker 2: 2:07:06

I ain't go. Oh, oh silence, oh silence on the road from me. No like, and I'm like no music, I'm me like, oh, I'm me, like it's been, it's been a certain time period Like I've had to like, really like, break myself down and really cab rate and listen to no music, listen to nothing.

Speaker 1: 2:07:22

so we, we're gonna go introspective for a second man, we're gonna go mental. Okay, when you are in silence by yourself, are your thoughts in your head louder? Yes, can you hear your own thoughts louder like?

Speaker 2: 2:07:38

oh, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm believe or not. Like my um, my greatest supervisor, big, a kind of metal, uh, he told me one time he was like look like you having a hard time. He was like just sit back, relax. Who they doing on the order? Just throw all the people sit back, throw all the pieces up and just sit back. You know you got, you got information in front of you. Just piece it together, silent, piece it together, that's it.

Speaker 2: 2:08:08

That's the one thing that, like being an entrepreneur and like done for me, like is, it's allowed me to be able to control how loud the world the world to me is, like the world to me is allowed it's loud. Right now, what we doing is just quiet. The world outside here, outside of my house, is loud, but I've actually learned to be able, like I've learned to just say no, I want. So, whether it's Between the hours of like two and four in the morning or if it's between the fucking hours of like me driving from one job to another job I'm at three or four job sites in a day like it doesn't matter If I know that I need silence from like the outside world, from like Mainly music and just like just everything and it take it back to square one, take it back to zero.

Speaker 2: 2:09:03

I will do it Only because I refuse to crash, I refuse to burn out. I like that, I refuse to let with. I Not only has been an entrepreneur like. It helps you with your it. It helped like. Really, most importantly, it really it helps you with yourself. It helps you with dealing with other people. It helps you with dealing with yourself, other people, grace, understanding other people. It helps you understand life, the human interaction.

Speaker 2: 2:09:35

It helps you it helps you become the parent you know. It helps you become like oh, I'm gonna call you when something's going wrong. Like you know it forces you to learn skills, but it also helps you be able to the reason how she'd be able to say, okay, well, that's the thing about this. You, as an entrepreneur, like you, have your own equation in your head how you figure out life.

Speaker 1: 2:10:01

He's just like because there's no, morally, you got your word, how you feel, but there's no right or wrong way of how you, how you do things, never. So I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you a quick story, real quick freedom speakers. You might have hear her on Some of the advertisements for the show. Uh, the children are on the show, they have An ad on there and that came about actually almost as a punishment. Okay, so I'm gonna give you the story.

Speaker 1: 2:10:29

My oldest boy, he uh, who I love, that's my, my junior man, ken Wan, I lead junior, powerful, powerful, but he Uh adjusting to sixth grade having, uh, you know, there's newfound responsibility placed up on him, um, newfound goals and achievements he need to meet, like he has to make gains as everyone else. So one of the teachers were A sub and they were seemed like the cool sub. They Communicate and meet the children with a level of humor. Uh, because every human being, humor is every human being's commonplace. So in another universe, man, I was going to be a teacher and or professor in college and I would have used humor to connect. You know, so I understand it, what the key is. That being said, kj ended up being viewed as disrupting the class because he connected with the humor but didn't know when to turn it off. Um led to my man having a detention, led to having to explain like you got to handle this, you can't do this, can't do that. But then it also led to we having a counseling meeting at the school about, uh, his behavior. Not that it was a negative, but like hey, let's talk about this, what's going on, you know what's going on. So him expressing like hey, the teacher was cool, he was laughing, he knew jokes, he knew the gritty, he knew this. So it what I had to hear them view it. It's like he wasn't doing anything negative, he was being a kid. Mm-hmm, he's been a kid.

Speaker 1: 2:12:08

I am the, I am the uncle and the dad as a view, as Cool, but don't play. It's like Uncle Juan cool, but he, he make us all do it, Make saw clean up. He makes us all. If I'm not uncle. If one getting ass whooping, they are getting ass whooping, but if one getting the bike, they all don't get a bike. I'm not uncle. You know I'm saying I'm not role model. I'm not. I'm not a role model about disclaimer. I am an example. I am not a role model. Don't do the shit that I do. You do shit like me. Don't be like me. No, okay, this is the disclaimer.

Speaker 1: 2:12:46

But when the school was, like you know, gave the just gave the straight line of when the teacher is up there talking and you're interrupting your heckling the teacher. That's their stage. They allow that and school is the place where you cannot do that. So, hearing that and understanding that a comprehended that I said okay, well, if they're, the school is giving you a place where you can't exercise or get, not that you can't. They're telling you you cannot Exercise your gift here of being funny and comical and things of that nature. Thank you for setting the base. So, since he can't do it here, I'll give him a place where he can. I'll give him a place on the show. So I'm okay, man, you so funny nigga. Uh, write some jokes. I want five minutes of jokes and you better be funny. And he, like when he broke down a sense of humor of like I'm not like knock knock, joke funny, like, not like that. But I'm funny if, like, somebody says something, I can like say something back, funny, we can go like that. So I'm gonna go, I got it how you want to show him and we just talking. You, I get to see how funny you can be with me, man, but the teacher stage is only in that classroom on your own. This show permission to speak freely podcast.

Speaker 1: 2:14:01

You were a Y buddy, so you only get to earn to do this if you perform well in school by allowing the teacher to teach. I'm some kind of fucking parent, bro. I could have just went upside his head, which you got asked women, you know, father, shit. It wasn't pertaining to that, but I was just on some I love you type of Right, but Me expressing to him like amen, this is games that you need to make. You weren't doing anything wrong by Demonstrating a part of yourself, but this isn't the time nor the place.

Speaker 1: 2:14:34

Latin, like dad and mom, create the platform for you to be able to do so, for you and you to earn it. You do well in school. You make the grade in school. You get to be able to perform and put yourself into this art world that you want to be in, but it's still games, man. You got to make it. So he got it and he understood. And look to see him more people.

Speaker 1: 2:14:55

The man is extremely funny, he's extremely talented, it's extremely handsome, is extremely smart, and he just so happened to be named me, mark, in one Ali. And I tell him that man, just even like, when I'm, when I'm teaching him and I'm throwing game at him, I am. He's 11 right now, so I'll tell him when he, when he do shit, I'll be like, hey, I've been an 11 year old boy named Kim Wan before. You don't know I'm, since safe right now. You don't know I'm, you don't know how great that I am right now. But you will what you will, but let's ease on there. This is our first time here together, man. I want you to, you know, but breaking it down to him, black. I wish I, somebody, had had these conversations with me on a daily basis, like father style, father wise, like that. That mean something. You know. I'm having hearing that in that tone, in that voice.

Speaker 2: 2:15:54

For sure.

Speaker 1: 2:15:59

Him being like amen, don't nobody want no issues with my dad. I see my dad handle things. He stands up for people, he stands up for himself, he, he does for so much he does and all he asks is for us to be quiet. And I can't do this, but it's an understanding of like. He has to see it, yes, to see it. So, on that note, man, that situation brought us closer together when in some households he wouldn't got a chance this, you wouldn't be able to hear his side of the story, no sure you wouldn't have been ever to him. To him to say, man, the teacher was really cool and funny and made me want to actually learn. I just got so caught up in being fun that, you know, I got an attention behind it. I became disruptive because you know he was funny, you know, but if he wasn't alone, it was other kids too. But you, my child, got there and that's what I say, you and you not white.

Speaker 2: 2:16:55

It's a level of perception at you gain, like the thought your, like your journey is, like it's all, like it's a level of perception it's being able to actually like still be able to see it before see it.

Speaker 2: 2:17:07

Mm-hmm like my dad always tell me it was like you gonna start something, but I see that fantasy all the way through, like be able to see it, mm-hmm. And like, like, even with this road, like you got to understand, like when you're like, you're inspired, like like like you're aspiring, even when you don't think that you're aspiring, like you still have, you still got to show up. You got to show your customers. You got to show for your workers. I'll show for your children, for your family. You have to. As an entrepreneur, you have to show up 20, 24 hours a day, seven days out of the week.

Speaker 1: 2:17:45

No off.

Speaker 2: 2:17:47

No off, believe it or not, only during them. Off days is probably when you get, like you know, earned boss lunch break for like an hour or two hours, like maybe you know, like whenever and if you, but other than that, like you don't get the pick and choose, like when you want to just release your brain, can't do it you can't do that now.

Speaker 1: 2:18:08

You. You is do is extremely difficult to cut off.

Speaker 2: 2:18:12

Conscious though, and should be so. Like I like goodness, like people like Jay Z, everybody, like people who had to, like people who adjust, like what they do and just like I believe it up, like With a live and stuff like that, like you, really like you start to think about who a boo easy Dfg be all because you care about fucking Z.

Speaker 2: 2:18:33

Yeah, you haven't reached Z just yet, but you care about actually reaching the end of the fit, the end of your personal finish. Like, however you, as you're paving your way and seeing you through, all you just know is is I, I just need my fuckers to be great and be good and just I need to know that I did my very best. It's time to. That's your end of the road. But as you're getting to that end of the road, you're going at it alone. You add people to it and bouncing back. You whoop, whoop. You're constantly still having to adjust like it's gonna always be.

Speaker 1: 2:19:05

Adjustment is gonna always be a level of having to critique yourself, man. It's gonna always be a level of having to Demonstrate what you're asking, like I need to do this or do that or show up this kind of way. This is kind of how I need you to do it, and when you show it in your model with it's one of them, like you can fall back on it like amen. I'm giving you the example, mm-hmm, you, you, you, they're not trying to gain it. Listen to it, or is? It's just not that important to you? And but anything that is important should not be neglected. You know, I'm saying it should not be neglected, man.

Speaker 1: 2:19:46

So you is is a key thing to be able to prioritize your time. Where you put yourself, are you putting your energy, where you're putting your money? You know who will? You with you. Some people can like. I say this to my wife to the day we was talking I'm like man, as much as Expenses that I do have to pay, that just comes with the cost of doing business and be understanding it, I still don't like bills. I still don't want bills. I still don't want. I Still don't want to be dissatisfied with having to pay for a service that I'm not satisfied. You know I'm saying or say, work, pay a person and I'm not satisfied with their Production of what they're doing there purposely, are not giving me their best and I deserve that. I'm giving the opportunity and making the way and I'm freezing the palm For this person to feel like they're gonna just give me.

Speaker 2: 2:20:38

There is whatever they feel, but you know what the most like. It's the right. It's the right, not toxic, you know, you know. The weird thing about business, though, is that you still have to actually stay prepared to prepare your mind, even even when you're in the process of Even even when you're in the process of actually like making your plans. You have to be in the process of your plans, your plans, fairly at the same time.

Speaker 1: 2:21:01

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 2:21:02

You have to like I was talking to this one painting contractor. He did something. He was like a. One thing I just know is that I stayed prepared. He was like a. Any one of these screws could like say, you know, fuck this job and you know, forget. No, like this, integra, I gotta be ready to go in there, my sprayer, and be ready to go ahead and get it done and get the job done Woo-hoo, and it's like yes, even like that now but it's like you have to.

Speaker 2: 2:21:26

It's like. It's like being like. It's like trying to be the best quarterback ever. But though you Want to throw that ball, you still got a. I'm ready, though.

Speaker 1: 2:21:38

It's just shit yeah you got a perfect time and things had aligned up. Everybody has to be what they need to be. For that to work, you have to be a motion guy Money bag.

Speaker 2: 2:21:48

Yo motion guy like the need, like his whole song, bring friends. Based on like like a whole 20, like 24, like you have to be on motion for 24 hours shows. Figure out how to get more money. Like doing this with people on. Is that third Advertising? Like? Whatever, it doesn't matter. You're constantly having to figure out how to actually stay in motion. While being in motion, mm-hmm, being awake and trying to still get sleep.

Speaker 2: 2:22:15

I like and they're still trying to have an appetite for food, you know, and then whatever else, like you say it's a rush, it's like a, it's like a speeding car. I Love the hot. Like this is kind of speak freely for sure, for sure, I love the highway. The highway is a perfect example for like, whether it's like for a pretty much, I say be for being an entrepreneur, it's a go for 60.

Speaker 1: 2:22:46

But you know, you try to go.

Speaker 2: 2:22:49

Yo, I push it. Your determination is saying push it like, go like that's in a furious, that shit, but even still, even like, even like why you're driving. Or it's a regular speed limits, my driving slow, like you still got to anticipate what other cars gonna do, swirl, you know. So you have to always be in motion and get to destination. But I fight the highways. The perfect way to relax, it's a way for me to be a be like okay, I'm driving, I got my blood, I'm just back, I'm just driving, I'm just think, and it's silent. I'm just thinking. Or music might be playing, but for most part, if I'm if I'm, it is more if I made his mindset is silent, but I'm watching the car swerve by, like I'm just thinking, like I'm trying to piece the pose together any way possible. Well, there's two music, my playlist coming up. Traffic is just what's the next step, what? But I've been holding like it's like speed, slow, speed, slow. But you still eventually get there. But you're still in motion. Now you.

Speaker 1: 2:24:04

We've been going for a little bit people and this is how we we roll. Man. Our conversations are very in depth, man. We go over and beyond just the the general information that you may think that business men talk about of how we can make more money to just do things for ourselves, when it's really Making more money to better our team and get better equipment and better information and protection. So this is be part one of the conversation, from sewer to entrepreneur, and look forward For more content of business and information of how to level up yourself yourself, improvement your finance, your family, your business, everything. You can follow me on Instagram at permission, the number two underscores speak freely podcast. That's the. That's permission, the number two underscore speak freely podcast.

Speaker 2: 2:25:06

Nice and I'm Marcellus with full service painting. You can find me on Instagram under full service painting. Facebook, same thing, full service painting. Or you can look under Marcellus clay. But if you're looking for any in to your painting or anything, just click on a link and all that's much of free. Look forward to me being here again. I guess, yes, no, not. I guess no. Definitely show. This is like.

Speaker 1: 2:25:35

This is a vibe right here for sure, man. So listeners, freedom speakers, thank you guys for tuning in to us here at permission to speak freely.