Ever find yourself caught up in the web of ghosting? Picture the scene. You're in a professional partnership, and suddenly the communication goes cold. No calls, no emails, no explanation - just radio silence. Layla and I, Chief Ali, take the plunge into this murky world, sharing intimate stories about our ghosting encounters in business and personal realms. The plot thickens as we admit to having been the 'disappearing act' too. So, buckle up for a ride through our candid and revealing conversation.
As the fog lifts on ghosting, we dig into why it isn't necessarily the evil it's painted to be. It's easy to blame the employer or the talent, but ghosting is a complex dance with two participants. We dive into the delicate balance between respect, honesty, and the hard reality of challenging interactions. Sharing personal anecdotes, we explore how honesty - even when inconvenient - can yield surprising benefits. Remember, ghosting is not a one-way street. Let's navigate its winding lanes together, shedding light on this often overlooked aspect of relationships. Tune in, and let's unravel the mystery.
P2SF Podcast Official Intro By Lay Loe Tha Mos Produced By Chief Ali
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Ever find yourself caught up in the web of ghosting? Picture the scene. You're in a professional partnership, and suddenly the communication goes cold. No calls, no emails, no explanation - just radio silence. Layla and I, Chief Ali, take the plunge into this murky world, sharing intimate stories about our ghosting encounters in business and personal realms. The plot thickens as we admit to having been the 'disappearing act' too. So, buckle up for a ride through our candid and revealing conversation.
As the fog lifts on ghosting, we dig into why it isn't necessarily the evil it's painted to be. It's easy to blame the employer or the talent, but ghosting is a complex dance with two participants. We dive into the delicate balance between respect, honesty, and the hard reality of challenging interactions. Sharing personal anecdotes, we explore how honesty - even when inconvenient - can yield surprising benefits. Remember, ghosting is not a one-way street. Let's navigate its winding lanes together, shedding light on this often overlooked aspect of relationships. Tune in, and let's unravel the mystery.
P2SF Podcast Official Intro By Lay Loe Tha Mos Produced By Chief Ali
https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696215502 www.bnbossn.com @permission2_speakfreelypodcast @layloe.thamos, @mochachoco_latte @kweenland All merch made by @nessas_crafty_nest, All music, production, and vocals edited by Chief Ali, Keep Powering Forward #chiefali đ§đŊââī¸đĨđ´đŊđĒļ
Speaker 1:
Yo, what's happening, people? Welcome to another episode of Permission to Speak Freely, permission to speak free. What's happening? What's going on? I am your bro, host Layla the most. I am your bro, host Layla, the most, and I am your host, chief Ali, addressing me as Chief Ali how you feeling today, brother, on this lovely day? Hey man, I'm actually alright. Man, well, I lied, oh damn, I'm not okay.
Speaker 1:
We so used to just saying how you doing, oh good, we so used to just defaulting to doing well and can't complain. Can't complain. Let's tell the truth, man. Let's speak freely today, for sure, man. So, uh, want me to go again? No, no, we good, we good, man. How you doing today, brother? Uh, not so great, not so great. Talk to me, man, what's up? I've had better days, but, uh, today is one of those days where life got heavy. And when I mean life got heavy, I wear multiple hats. So today's heavy hat was business. So kinda was one of the speaking touch on a little bit about business and getting some things across to listeners and entrepreneurs alike.
Speaker 1:
Have you ever been in a position where you've been ghosted? Well, yeah, yeah. So in our position, we in business, we get ghosted Probably more often than what you would believe. But you get ghosted by circumstances. You get stood up. Sometimes it's not even a per se your fault of why or the entrepreneur's fault. It could solely lie on the employer, I mean on the talent that is being recruited. The person could and just these are a few things that we've noticed just in our trends and patterns of seeing ghosting happen to us in business. The person will interview, do interview, well, come through to get the schedule and then when it's time to actually show up, they're not there. Or the person will interview and then you don't hear from them, or, hey, this person can get deep in the game and then they just fall off the face of the earth and just quit. So ghosting happens in all forms of relationship, not just somebody you courted, but, hey, when there's a supply and demand between people, normally the ghosting can happen. Or they don't want to supply or the demand maybe just too much. But that's kind of what that mean in my field is going into the weekend just handling business, putting a thumb tack into that for next week, having some growth with business that has come residential clients, transportation clients, ads clients. However, we have great talent that's coming through as well, but some people don't make it all the way through and the ghosting came from man.
Speaker 1:
So give me some of your views or experiences that you've had, potentially, with a ghosting. What's happened too many times to count. As you already know, we talk about this all the time. If we have three interviews scheduled in a day, we'll be lucky to get one to just show up. A lot of times, let's say, if I'm home and say I have an interview at 11, and it's kind of like, yeah, I'll leave at like 10, 15, make sure I get there, Hopefully they show up. You know what I mean. It gets to a point where you're like and if you schedule that 10, it's 10.08. They probably ain't coming, but I'm hoping so. Hopefully they just running behind. You know what I mean and it don't feel good. It's very similar to being stood up romantically, being left outside the movie theater while other people on dates having a good time. You just yeah, I had an interview today. It didn't come and it didn't explain why. Right expectations, it does not. It does not feel good and especially, like you said, when they get deep into the hiring process not even hiring process. You hired.
Speaker 1:
We went through the other three days of rigorous orientation. You've been through it Well and we scheduled training. Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow through a clock. Here's the address, here's who you be training with, looking forward to seeing you there. Hey, just calling that. What time was training supposed to be here? That they're three o'clock? Yeah, they still ain't here. Okay, thank you, thank, hurts, kind of all you got man.
Speaker 1:
So what happens too often is the job or the employer supposed to have some type of sympathy for the person? Yeah, for the talent of the town, and more more times than none, the employer generally gives in just to they're recognized as the bigger person. Yeah, so it's like oh, yeah, man, we ain't trippin on that, we ain't worry about that, we're gonna, we're gonna get you solid, we're gonna get you right. But it it tends to not always work out that way when the employer is the one that is Bending over backwards, yeah, initially, for a person who potentially hasn't even been proven for sure, taking the risk. That's where the risk comes in, for sure, for sure, man. And it doesn't feel good, man. So I Take the good with the bad, with that Mm-hmm. That was just a little on my heart of like a man.
Speaker 1:
Ghosting happens in all relationships. It's not just romantic, I'm not just supporting, not just. And In relationships when you are looking to be physical, yeah, these are ghosting. Happens in friendship, mm-hmm, that you just a this person said or did something that you didn't like or they didn't like and you just they, just walked away.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so, as a person who, who has a ghost? Oh, you, you've ghosted. I've ghosted before. So I understand and I accept whatever karma comes back in any form. I can't question that. But I understand. I don't think I've ever ghosted. I've ghosted, yeah, I've only had like four jobs in my life. Yes, this is pretty damn good spectrum is a lot bigger than just the job. I've not, I've ghosted jobs. I don't think I haven't got a job, maybe like 10 years though. Well, yes, ten years since I've been. You know we've been stepping in a business, but I've ghosted people.
Speaker 1:
I've ghosted a relationship, sometimes for my own sanity, yeah, and that you know a lot of. You know it's necessary. You know what I mean. Sometimes the ghosting isn't even intentional. We've talked, we spoke about folks just Growing apart and life is going in different directions. I wouldn't even can, I wouldn't even put that in the ghosting box. That's just. Ghosting is intentional. Hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I called you, saw, you saw a card. You know I Not answering, ignore, block. You know what I'm saying? I got a really long block list too. I don't think I've ever blocked anybody. I blocked, like spam messages and stuff like that, but I don't think I've ever blocked anybody. You ain't living enough Perhaps, you ain't taking enough risks, perhaps, but no, I mean my block list is long. My ghost list is even longer.
Speaker 1:
However, I've learned just through my ghosting, though. I've learned through my ghosting that it's not my character to go. So what I do is, in any relationship man, I tend to give a healthy dismount. That's good. I help it. No matter what the situation is, I do my best to try to give a healthy dismount, because hell has no fury like a woman's scorn. Yeah, that's for sure. And I personally don't like to sit at night knowing that I've made decisions and that I got a more. Yeah, come out of work to a flat tire or something. Or I've woken up to that. I've woken up to busted car windows Wow, flat tires. Perhaps I haven't lived enough. People trying to get me fired at my job Wow, I got married man, so I could stop in line Like slinging, slinging grade A pain.
Speaker 1:
At that time I was probably like C, c, c, c. I started slinging grade A pain. Why was it when I started learning? Because I had the confidence thing of my shit as well for many. Like nigga, I'm picking up my stamina. Good, the hip motion, for what can I do with my head going off? We're going off, man. We speak, we speak and freely like I'm with. But I I started throwing good pain until I felt like I like a woman and when I liked her it was now I'm shine and show up. That's part of it. Before it was very selfish to me. I got another half inch for this bitch. I like you. Yeah, got some more girth. I'm stuffed. You were to turn you into a bad thing. You like stuff, shells yeah, you about to be a whole stuff. Clam, clam that, clam that, clam that, clam that, clam like a motherfucker. You know.
Speaker 1:
That being said, man, even in those instances of being romantic with people and being ghosted, I've been ghosting, ghosting. I've been ghosting. I've been ghosting romantically for sure, and in business Both. You know the shit don't feel good. I wouldn't want to do that to anybody. Like you say, I would. I would rather give a healthy. I hadn't been in too many situations where I've needed to give a healthy dismount. However, if it was my choice, you know I want to.
Speaker 1:
You know you can't go through life feeling like you don't owe nobody, no explanation. Perhaps that's true, perhaps you don't. However, give them one anyway. You know, the famous line is the cop out if you will. It's not you, as me. Golden. That's a. That's a dismount. That's a that's an explanation. Hey, I'm just not ready for this. I like you too much. I'm scared. This isn't our season. That's a recent one, that's a new hour. That's a real poet.
Speaker 1:
You know, man, I would prefer to give a person, whether I care about him or not, I just care about people in general. You know, saying I ain't trying to become another work to know flat ties, bust the windows, jasmine Sullivan playing in the distance, and I don't want that. So I'll give you a quick story, man, and we'll move forward, because I'm probably going to get cry. But I remember part 15 years ago I went on the date to Applebee and I was. I was not supposed to be technically on the date, but I was in between relationship. Ok, damn Diane.
Speaker 1:
Again I took this young lady to the Applebee's and we in there eating. At this time I had no tact of man. Don't you answer your phone, don't you do this bull, don't you do none of that. You give this person, you, with your undivided attention, straight up. I did not. The other young lady ended up pulling up to where we were, jump down the whip, acting a plump fool. Whoa. I'm out there trying to calm down the situation and both of these women are they're not small women. I like my women BBW. So these were juicy, blumptuous, sexy women to me at this time that were fighting over me. And at this time I'm like I don't even know what the fuck you are Bitch. I ain't know all that, but obviously I am enough.
Speaker 1:
That being said, after I get the situation calm down and I call to apologize to the young lady I was on the date with. For sure the ex was coming here just ruining the scenario. Ruin the day, why, why? When I called her and she answered her phone she had he should call. Look him, miss the alien playing like I don't want your man, cause I got it like that and he ain't even got to be like that. Ha ha, ha ha. And for about six seconds I was really like hurting in my feelings and I felt like that shit was intentional For how I felt like she through that whole scenario. That just happened. That song fit what she was going through.
Speaker 1:
And then, like five, six days later, I got that message of like yeah, me and my ex slash my baby, daddy, we gonna try to work it out. And I'm like, yeah, and you got that message from the young lady you were on the date with. Yeah, yeah, I think. And then the message that I received from the young lady that bombarded the date was that bitch, don't really love you. You better off just speaking with me. I'm the best you can probably do.
Speaker 1:
And I was like, why the fuck is you lying to both of them? Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Why are you lying to me, to my face? That's delusion on shit. Like bitch, like, come on, I don't do that. Don't try to fucking finagle me to believe in some false shit Making my confidence. That's an insult, very much so, regardless of how beautiful or amazing this shit is, that's the. I'm the best you can do.
Speaker 1:
Bitch, bitch, bitch. You one out of seven, eight billion bitch, and you think you, you the one, you the 0.0001% of that eight billion, you the one of one. You ain't Jesus, hoe, you really believe that? Ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Jesus, jesus, one, my man, don't do that shit. You, jesus was supposed to be one on one and you ain't Jesus, motherfucker. You, you not humble? No, no, bitch, you wasn't walking on water showing off, not at all. That one, the fuck. You weren't the only nigga that could do that, he was the only nigga to do that and was showing the fuck off, bitch, you. Showing off doing shit everybody could do Hoe, shaking their ass, sucking dick, bitch trash, bitch trash, bitch trash, bitch trash. All right, but I digress Moving forward. I can't do it, man.
Speaker 1:
The advice that I would give to anybody that has dealt with, anybody that and you've been ghosted or you've had to go yeah, man, it goes. I prefer not, man, I prefer not. That's my take on it. Good, rather it be a business or relationship man, I prefer not to ghost. I'll tell you what my interview this was years ago.
Speaker 1:
I interviewed with the company here in Kuyahoga County and I interviewed. Well, actually, a question that I was asked in this interview I use it for myself today One because I nailed the shit out of that question and they actually wanted to hire me. You used to work for this company. You ended up telling me later you thought, yeah, I used to work for them, connection, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they wanted to bring me aboard and the company I was with was kind of like, hey, no, keep fucking with us here.
Speaker 1:
So when the young lady reached out to me and said, hey, yeah, you know, need this, this tonight, it's kind of like, well, I'll tell you what. You know, the company I'm currently with actually, you know, made some moves and I think I'm gonna stay here, you know, instead of just not answering the phone. You know what I'm saying. So just you know, I prefer not to ghost. You know what I mean. So when I yeah, so if I gotta apply again, like hey, yo do, I got an interview again, you know me. Hey, it's me, baby, you know what he is. Come on now. No, man, but I prefer not. I prefer not.